Nikki Haley-What was the cause of the Civil War

[Belsnickel]

(01-16-2024, 07:57 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: SEe, but here's the thing that confuses me is that the end state of communism has been described to me as "a stateless, moneyless, classless society." So, by that definition of communism, it would be right wing because there would be no state? Communism has always been strange to me for that reason because I agree with your general broad brush stroke as well. I would phrase it more like: the further left you go, the more equal people are in the power distribution of society. The further right you go, the more hierarchies appear (whether that be governmental, corporate, wealth based, race based, gender based, class based etc).

So, what is interesting here is that libertarianism isn't only a right-wing ideology. In fact, that is a distinctly American way of viewing it. There are libertarian socialists that run counter to libertarian capitalists. I use libertarianism in the way that people in the US tend to understand the term which is on the capitalist side of the equation. Here is the distinction between communism and libertarianism, though. First, keep in mind that the "state" has different ways of being defined. I would say the "state" is the overall political body whereas another common viewpoint is the state as a centralized authority. That view is how Marxists tend to view the state. Communism's ideal is a pure democracy with no private property. Pure democracy is sometimes referred to as stateless even though, in my view, there is a government that exists because that is the people and as such there is a state. But that is a disagreement in the field and I am in the minority opinion on it. Anyway, libertarian capitalists, or American libertarianism, favors instead private property ownership and no governance, instead relying on the market interactions to determine the politics.

Politics, FYI, is just how we figure out how to live together. Everything is politics. You can never escape it. *cue evil laugh*