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(01-26-2024, 06:29 PM)pally Wrote: Because existing law isn't working.

Existing law isn't even being enforced.  You cannot logically say something doesn't work when you're not even implementing it.


Quote:For example, a person presenting themselves at a legal port of entry and requesting asylum must be admitted until a hearing can be held which in an ideal world would take place within weeks if not days but because there is a massive shortage of immigration judges currently takes months.  

The laws for asylum state you must apply at the first possible nation.  Consequently, if you're not Mexican and you're applying for asylum from the southern border your claim should be automatically denied as Mexico is recognized as a safe nation to apply for asylum.  See what I mean about not even enforcing existing law?


Quote:The penalties for employing undocumented workers are minimal compared to the benefits of hiring them.  Stop the jobs and you will stop a lot of the border crossings.  

On this we completely agree.  But even the laws on the books in this regard are not enforced.  More ammunition for my point.


Quote:For a country of our size we admit so few legal immigrants that for people from countries such as Mexico the waitlist for a legal visa is so long that it is virtually impossible to ever get one

It's hardly impossible, it has a waiting list.


Quote:Our entire immigration system has needed updating for decades but Congress hasn't wanted to deal with this issue.

We agree on this as well.  The solution is not ignoring the laws that already exist as has been happening for decades and has ramped up significantly under Biden.


Quote:CBP needs more people, better facilities, better equipment, and revised laws.  They need state and federal governments to stop using immigration as a political battering ram.  

The first thing they need is for actual laws to be enforced.  Immigration would not be a political "battering ram" as you put it if it wasn't for the deliberate refusal to enforce existing law.  Border states have been dealing with this issue for decades, as already stated.  Now that other states, largely Democratic strongholds are feeling the effect all of the sudden it's an urgent political issue.  As much as I dislike the cynical nature of busing migrants to "sanctuary cities", it was a brilliant move in regard to shedding light on the problem and the Dems utter hypocrisy on this issue.

Quote:Now the Senate has come close to addressing some of the problems and Trump sends the word to not even consider it because it would give Biden a victory.  So much for America First

Even with this deal it would hardly be a Biden victory,  The guy has fumbled the ball on this issue way too hard for him to score any points on a partial resolution, which is all this deal would achieve.

(01-26-2024, 06:30 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Do you think the existing immigration laws are good enough?

I think you need to actually enforce them first to determine this.

Quote:Seems to me there is clearly flaws when depending on who is potus and how they feel that day an immigration executive order ends up tied up in the courts because of executive over reach. And different interpretations of the law end up with different outcomes.

That's because the executive branch has a lot of leeway in this regard.  

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Which do you Prefer? - NATI BENGALS - 01-25-2024, 10:42 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - GMDino - 01-25-2024, 11:23 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - GMDino - 01-26-2024, 12:37 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - Arturo Bandini - 01-26-2024, 02:13 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - GMDino - 01-26-2024, 03:15 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - NATI BENGALS - 01-26-2024, 02:21 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - NATI BENGALS - 01-26-2024, 04:22 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - Matt_Crimson - 01-26-2024, 02:43 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - NATI BENGALS - 01-26-2024, 04:28 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - NATI BENGALS - 01-26-2024, 05:01 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - pally - 01-26-2024, 06:29 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - NATI BENGALS - 01-26-2024, 06:30 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 01-26-2024, 06:54 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - Dill - 01-27-2024, 06:44 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - GMDino - 01-26-2024, 03:21 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - Synric - 01-26-2024, 02:50 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - Arturo Bandini - 01-26-2024, 02:52 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - basballguy - 01-26-2024, 04:14 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - NATI BENGALS - 01-26-2024, 04:58 PM
RE: Which do you Prefer? - NATI BENGALS - 01-26-2024, 09:29 PM
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