02-14-2024, 08:06 PM
(02-14-2024, 06:34 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: If you think ~20% of the cap and ~30% of the cap are "relatively close", then yes you are saying exactly that sort. Those are vastly different.
You're just hand-waving away a top-30 paid player in the NFL's worth of difference.
That 10% difference in 2025 is Logan Wilson + Alex Cappa + Germaine Pratt's contracts with us.... combined. That's not "relatively close".
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No it's not.
Neither Stafford or Kupp were top-10 paid players at their positions in the NFL in 2021 (and the Rams traded for Stafford, so they didn't have to account for his signing bonus either). Robert Woods was technically the 10th but his contract was completely fake inflated numbers with $0 signing bonus and heavily backloaded. We're not getting Higgins or Chase to sign for $0 signing bonus and heavily backloaded so that we can cut them before we actually have to pay them, so that's not comparable either.
The Bucs, Tom Brady was middle-of-the-pack in QB pay (4-way tie for 14th) and Chris Godwin was still on his 3rd round rookie deal when they won the SB in '20.
This was simply a reply to a question regarding a team having an expensive QB and 2 expensive WRS, this entire counter argument is not valid whatsoever.
The 50% number you used earlier makes no sense to me, all of these replies by you and others comparing the playing ability of the receivers has ZERO to do with the conversation.
Year 1: 9.9% difference
Year 2: 9.15% difference
Year 3: 0.35% difference
These are similar enough to have the conversation. If you want them to be within 1-2% every year to be considered compatible, well that is your opinion but the changing emphasis of the cap and numerous other reasons over the last 17 years should be taken into account. Some variance must be allowed, in my opinon.
This isnt difficult, in Perotta's example he showed:
Using 2025 as starting point because this is when I expect a Chase extension.
— Andre Perrotta (@andreperrotta13) February 6, 2024
Burrow + Higgins + Chase:
2025 = 30.96%
2026 = 34.15%
2027 = 35.35%
Colts with Manning + Harrison + Wayne:
2006 = 21%
2007 = 25%
2008 = 35%
WHY ARE YOU SAYING ALL OF THIS? (below)
"Neither Stafford or Kupp were top-10 paid players at their positions in the NFL in 2021 (and the Rams traded for Stafford, so they didn't have to account for his signing bonus either). Robert Woods was technically the 10th but his contract was completely fake inflated numbers with $0 signing bonus and heavily backloaded. We're not getting Higgins or Chase to sign for $0 signing bonus and heavily backloaded so that we can cut them before we actually have to pay them, so that's not comparable either."
Nobody cares about bonuses or structure, this is beyond insane. Simply cap impact.
The conversation is about 3 expensive players and their impact on the cap? Has an expensive QB and 2 expensive QBs won a SB, thats it... they have. Your attempt to go down some crazy rabbit hole is beyond my understanding.
