Israel/Hamas War Superthread

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(02-15-2024, 10:39 AM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Belsnickel Wrote:Why do you keep saying they are harboring Hamas? You said earlier this wasn't about their choice, but harboring is an active action being taken. The people of Gaza are being held captive by Hamas, they are not harboring them. There are three main actors that prevent freedom of movement in Gaza: Israel, Egypt, and Hamas. The three of them, while not working together, have a web of restrictions that create a prison-like environment for these people. How can you see that as harboring them?

If you allow people to conceal themselves among you, when you, being an "innocent" citizen makes it harder for their position to be attacked, then you are harboring them.
Answer me this.   Over 1 million people fled Gaza city and became refugees in Rafah. How did they get there?  

You do realize that Rafah is still in Gaza, right? The people who fled Gaza are refugees now living with the refugees already living in Gaza. People trapped in the Strip are simply being herded from one part to another, while their homes are being destroyed.

(02-16-2024, 10:29 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Which leads me to option two.
You attempt to escape from them. You take your 3mph walking speed and go somewhere else. If 47 miles is two days, then how much is two more days? And two more days after that? Is escaping tyranny not worth 8 days of travel?
There’s no guarantee you’ll find another place to call home. Your objective is to run from the tyranny that has asked for the wrath of Israel to come upon it. You don't get to tell them what to do because it's your home. You chose to live under tyranny. Therefore, under tyranny you shall perish.

You seem to think that Palestinians trapped in the Gaza strip can just walk out of Gaza if they want to, without the permission of Israel or Egypt. 

As if Gaza were a sovereign ("Nazi-controlled") state, not a territory of stateless people under Israeli control since 1967. 

That suggests to me that you do not have basic knowledge of this conflict, its history and what is at stake for each of the players.