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(02-18-2024, 10:38 PM)pally Wrote: Politically, Liz Cheney stands for everything I don't...but she took a stand that she knew would end her political career and still did that.  She didn't sell out like most of the current Republican Party.  Before Trump, Liz Cheney represented EVERYTHING the Republican Party was about.  Even after Trump, she voted with him something like 98% of the time.  She said what he did on and around Jan 6 was wrong and for that, she paid the ultimate political price.  To call her a RINO is just another sign of how depraved the current Republicans are.  

I could not, would not, and will not ever cast a vote for Liz Cheney.  But, I can and do admire her for taking a principled stand when the vast majority of her peers folded like the spineless sycophants that they are.

I very much agree with you on this.

She was a neoconservative, horrible for foreign policy (from either left or liberal perspective), and a dedicated servant of the New Right Republican party in the wake of Reagan and its Bush incarnation.

But like so many old, traditional conservatives, she had been taught that conservatism was about principles, that the US was a nation of laws built
on rule of law. True leaders were Washington/Reagan style role models, not nasty P-grabbers who publicly denigrated people they did not like and broke laws whenever they could for personal gain, vindictively punished enemies, lied about themselves to brag, insulted US military members for their loser stupidity, and changed their views to gain blocks of voters. She took that traditional view of values seriously.  You see the same distrust for Trump in the old guard 
(e.g., Goldwater's widow and son https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/barry-goldwater-s-family-against-donald-trump-n542506).

She knew what would follow from "doing the right thing" but did it anyway.

I can recognize, respect and honor the integrity she showed, even if I disagree with her on policy issues. I'm not going to spin up some personality deficiency to explain why she took her stand, when the simpler explanation seems to best fit the facts--she took a principled stand.
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