03-10-2024, 03:24 AM
(03-09-2024, 10:11 PM)Dill Wrote: Well, that's why I think we need to discuss the nature of "denunciation" first.
You argue that
1. any discovery/exposure of IDF violations of IHL (including via occupation) equates them with Hamas. So, to protect Israel,
No, I don't, disingenuous point number one. I argue that a direct attempt to equate them with Hamas, as you routinely do, are attempts to equate them. You literally did exactly this in you last post.
Quote:2. no one should be allowed to discover/acknowledge/discuss IDF violations of IHL--"parallels"--in principle.
No, I don't, disingenuous point number two. I have specifically stated in this thread I have zero issue discussing wrongdoings by the IDF. What I do, have, and will continue to have issue with is a one sided discussion of their wrongdoings while ignoring those of Hamas, or how those contribute to civilian casualties, as well as any attempt to define the two as equally bad actors, as you routinely do, have done, and will continue to do.
Quote:Application of that double standard would censor/block fact-based discussion on ideological grounds, so I won't cooperate.
You don't have the power to actually censor/block discussion, so the threat of denunciation ("Baghdad Dill supports the enemy!")
remains your only means of deterring full discussion of accurate reporting on current and past events.
No, it doesn't, disingenuous point number three. As described above your consistent equating of Hamas to the IDF is the issue. If you take issue with being called out for spreading Hamas propaganda, then stop spreading Hamas propaganda.
Quote:Why do you always claim to know that unnamed "others" agree with you? I'd bet a week's salary I could name nine forum members
(not including Dino) who won't agree that criticizing IDF conduct/Israeli politics = "supporting Hamas," but they would agree
that your threat of denunciation negatively affects open discussion. People who follow your lead will come from a different
subset of posters, from whom you (ironically) frequently seek to distance yourself.
Not sure what you think you're accomplishing here, other than a pathetic attempt to form a group of terrorist sympathizers around you that don't actually exist. Anyone who's actually read the posts I've made know my issue with your consistent apologist rhetoric for Hamas. But bet away, I'd definitely be interested in the results.
Quote:So for now, dodging the factual record, and failing to appreciate both the history of the conflict and international law,
mean your "challenges" to my drivel can't move beyond name calling, and will continue to be ineffective.
Accurate labeling cannot, by definition, be name calling. You, in your very last post, equate Hama to the right wing of Israeli politics. In so doing you directly illustrate my main issue with your whitewashing of Islamic extremists and terrorist apologism. I know you've exhausted your repertoire of BS, because you're now completely ignoring direct points and engaging in Dill circuitous arguments. We know you don't see Hamas as bad guys, or at least as only as bad as the Israelis. Quite dissembling and own it, it couldn't be more obvious.
