03-12-2024, 12:59 PM
(03-12-2024, 12:40 PM)GMDino Wrote: With "elements" of it? Not if there is supporting evidence.
Hence my use of the term. There is plenty of supporting evidence in this very thread.
Quote:What's the old line from the 80s? One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter? That's not to defend terrorism but to say perspective matters too.
To a point. Can you make that same argument with Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia? No, you cannot. They are both demonstrably evil. Hamas is no different, only more limited in ability and scale.
Quote:There are "elements" of the gop that one could post evidence they support fascism.
I still don't think we can say that a fellow poster is a "fascist apologist".
To be sure, just as there are elements in the Democratic party that are communist, an equally extreme ideology. Neither represent the stated goals or objectives of the organization or the beliefs of the majority of their members. This argument cannot be made for Hamas. Their goal is the destruction of Israel and eradication of the Jews in the Middle East. How do we know that, because they flat out say it. Consequently, anyone who choses to join Hamas, align with Hamas or defend Hamas does so knowing what their exact intentions are. Hence your analogy falls apart almost immediately.
Quote:In the border thread there are some pretty severe thoughts on how to treat immigrants. No one has been called a xenophobe.
Probably because there are very good arguments for limiting, and regulating, immigration that have nothing to do with xenophobia. If the same person limited their comments to immigrants only from Latin America, for example, and not immigrants as a whole, then you've got a rather sound foundation for the accusation.
Quote:If someone posts repeatedly the hate gay people and gay people are bad and need to be eliminated or forced to change or not act so "swishy" maybe you have a point. Perspective.
"Maybe", I'd have a point? C'mon, don't let your being allergic to ever agreeing with me on anything force you to make such an obviously false statement.
Quote:But I still think on these board labeling them would be frowned upon.
If so it's rather a symptom of what's going on in general in this country. Fear of causing offense leading people to tip toe around behavior that would have been lambasted not long ago. I would conclude that you've had zero issue labeling me as a GOP supporting conservative, a label I do not believe applies to me at all. I didn't cry about it, I disputed it with facts. Whether they convinced anyone is for them to decide, but as an adult I have the ability to stick up for myself.
