Israel/Hamas War Superthread

[Dill]

(03-10-2024, 10:08 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Regurgitate your lame tired horseshit ad infinitum, it doesn't change anything.  You directly, and deliberately, equate the terrorist garbage humans in Hamas to segments of the Israeli government or the IDF.  There is no comparison for a non-apologist for Hamas.  Your circuitous banality and disingenuous arguments change nothing, you make excuses for rapists and murderers, and you do so deliberately.  I haven't had to apply any label to you, I've merely had to point out the label you've willingly applied to yourself.

 So I called MYSELF a "supporter of terrorism"? Silently? You were just pointing it out, saying it out loud FOR ME?

Perhaps you should report me to the moderators for violating the forum code? People should be accountable for their behavior, right? 

Surely the mods will see nothing "DISINGENUOUS" or "CIRCUITOUS" in your argument.  They're figuring out what you've known along.

What I "directly and deliberately say," to repeat, is   

FIRST, that  "what you call 'Hamas propaganda' makes the label so general that it implicitly defines the accurate reporting of international reporters/observers as "support for terrorism." Meaning the only way to avoid that label is to NOT report/discuss what the IDF actually does in Gaza.

And SECOND: That either/or simply assumes what it should be proving, namely that any recognition/criticism of IDF war crimes eo ipso creates "equivalence" and is as such "support for terrorism."  

The logic of that is structurally parallel to a claim that recognition of war crimes by the Union Army in Georgia in 1865 "equates" the Union with the Confederacy and "whitewashes" slavery.  . . .  . Yet you cannot explain why it is suddenly "Hamas equivalence" when IDF war crimes are on the dock.  

These illustrate what you mean by "circuitous banality" and "disingenuous arguments."

I.e., arguments that cannot be refuted with more adjectives and more "just is." 

You cannot EXPLAIN why any acknowledgement of IDF war crimes creates "equation" in this conflict when it does not in others. 

To say that Right wing Israeli political parties MIRROR the Right in Palestinian politics--e.g., because both claim God justifies their
desire to wipe the other out and claim the land "from the river to the sea" (and more in the case of the Israeli right) is a perfectly just
analogy based on the form and content of their claims. And even so it doesn't create "equation" any more than acknowledging Union
war crimes equates them with the Confederacy. 

Which brings me to my THIRD point, namely that this whole "Dill supports terrorism" show is just to prevent discussion if IDF behavior in the current war.
It is an attempt to impose an ideological censorship of discussion, which cannot be argued for, only enforced by doubling down on slander.