Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals

[Mike M (the other one)]

(03-26-2024, 09:24 AM)hollodero Wrote: That just isn't true at all and it's not about semantics. Bernie is a social democrat, like many European leaders past and present are. One can dismiss Europe for many things, but calling us communist countries would be as inaccurate as it would be offensive.



Well, no one really knows, maybe it is not possible. I for one just have no doubts that he will try, one way or another. Just like last election, when he tried to pressure state secretaries into finding votes, pressure Pence to break the constitutional norms by not certifying the election, or deployed fake electors. Or of course when he argued for total immunity, which according to his lawyers would include killing political opponents. These aren't hitpieces, these things actually all happene

Can we agree that in both cases of Socialism and Communism that the State controls the Wealth/Property etc and distributes it as it sees fit?

Democratic Socialists embrace Liberal tactics where as Communism has no preference when it comes to tactics. 


Back to Bernie, 
He wants to end Capitalism. 
“we must create an economy that works for all, not just the very wealthy.”
Isn't that Socialism where everyone works for the betterment of the state and only takes what they need?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/14/politics/kfile-bernie-nationalization/index.html

He wants Nationalization of almost all major industries. 
He tries to get the poor, working class and another other oppressed minority on his side to "rise up" and take control of Coporations/Banks, etc so he can enact his "Liberal" policy.  

Same results, different tactics.