04-02-2024, 12:27 PM
(04-02-2024, 12:17 PM)GMDino Wrote: Again you misquote someone to make your point.
I specifically said :"..it is really hard to give them the benefit of the doubt...again."
So, I did correctly quote you.
Quote:When I have proof that it was intentional I will say so. When it looks suspicious/bad...again...I will say so.
So, outside of an outright admission that it was deliberate and they knew who it was you'll simply restrict yourself to heavily implying it was deliberate. Got it.
Quote:I'm not there bombing anyone, I'm observing what happens and what the responses are. I never said Israel couldn't defend itself. I said their mission of "completely getting rid of Hamas" is foolish and will never happen unless they plan on killing everyone in the strip. Has Hamas struck back since October? Maybe the constant bombing is working and the civilian lives lost will be worth it?
Not really sure what you mean by being "worth it". I do agree with you that it is extremely unfortunate and sad that Hamas has set up a conflict intended to maximize civilian casualties.
Quote:War is worse than hell, and even the good guys can look bad and do bad things.
Indeed. This is why it is so important to draw clear distinctions when they can be drawn. For example, say one side deliberately, and admittedly (which you stated is important to you) targeted and slaughtered civilians. Not only that but then broadcast footage of them doing so gleefully. They also engaged in gang rape and then deliberately kidnapped more civilians, including infants and toddlers. Said side then deliberately surrounds themselves with their own civilian populace in order to ensure any strike against them will cause civilian casualties. None of this is disputable. Is it not important to not only recognize this, but to view the results of the following conflict through the lens of that knowledge?
Quote:Israel is getting bad press everywhere...including IN Israel. Is everyone wrong but Netanyahu and you? Or is Netanyahu pushing for more and more attacks until he is satisfied personally?
They are indeed, which is why I had to begrudgingly give Hamas credit. Their plan worked better than I think they even thought possible.
Quote:What Luvnit said ties into someone providing the benefit of the doubt by saying even the aid workers might be anti-Israel. You never know, so if they died it may have been a good thing?
When I make that argument I'll be happy to address that type of question directed at me.
