Democrats losing all credibility in denial of overwhelming evidence..

[Mike M (the other one)]

(04-04-2024, 09:25 AM)Dill Wrote: 2. I don't doubt SSF is ok with pro-choice, gay marriage, and trans people. I just recognize the weak position of his beliefs in the rank order of his priorities. He's always ready to remind us "everyone knows" he's pro-choice and was for gay marriage before Obama, but the defenders of these ideals have tended' to be "the modern left" and "progressives"--targets of rage and hatred for him. 

Further, the Trump court has proven not friendly to the abovementioned policies, but SSF approves of how Trump's choices protect our "freedoms." He's also expressed admiration for DeSantis, not exactly a defender of any of these "socially left" policies.

So I don't see a "lie" here, just someone who, e.g., mostly attacks pro-choice politicians, not on their pro-choice stance, but across a range of other issues, just as he defends pro-life politicians, not on their pro life stance, but on those other issues, i.e., a guy who consistently and insistently attacks "the modern left" and defends the policies, political maneuverings, and SCOTUS selections of their anti-choice, anti-gay opponents.  

Thus it's his claim of "independence"/neutrality/nonpartisanship that takes people by surprise, as he calls others "hacks" for much more measured discourse. On his fascist thread he maintained that accurate labels are very important to political discourse. That centrist label cannot be maintained in this case without the kind of gaslighting which is destructive of accurate labeling. 

It's about Priorities.
Abortions, gay marriage and Trans people are social issues. Thus a low priority in the overall picture.
We have laws that protect them (other than abortion which i've made clear i want a middle ground on), I don't want "special" laws that give benefits to one group over others, Just make a blanket law and be done with it.  

How we spend our tax money, immigration, economy/jobs are my Priorities. 
If everyone has a job and can support their families, then we can get to work on the social side of politics. 

Til then get us the hell out of debt and spend the money on USC's not immigrants and corrupt countries, and for the love of God stop policing the world. 
Let NATO, UN and all the others take care of themselves. I get tired of the US being the bad guy when we try to handle something and it goes wrong. 

Stop blowing it on Electric cars, ffs 7.5 B's spent on it 2 years ago and we only have 7 fully functional charge stations in 4 states?? WTF. Manage that shit better. 

Been better off spending it on infrastructure.