Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals

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(04-05-2024, 07:14 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Nailed it!  The modern left is the absolute biggest threat to our oldest Constitutional protections.  One need only look what they are doing in countries that used to be bastions of Western freedom such as Canada, the UK and Australia.  They're imprisoning people , literally taking away freedom, for having and voicing an "offensive" opinion.  They're cancelling your bank accounts for daring to oppose them.  I have zero truck with the 01/06 rioters.  But the biggest threat to our freedoms as we've had them since the enacting of the Bill of Rights is the far left, and it's not even close.  

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-polling-suggests-kids-are-not-alright-free-speech




"Progressivism" is a disease entirely at odds with basic Western freedoms.  Note this graph is about allowing a person who is "anti" the topic to speak.  Looks like the conservatives are the tolerant ones, not the "liberals".  Modern liberalism is not liberal, it is fascism hiding under the bloody skin of what used to be actual liberalism.  Conservatives have their issues, to be very sure, Charlottesville as one extreme example.  But the above is far more insidious as it is far more pervasive and it is far more accepted.  


Sorry, what passes for the far left these days.  You are not the good guys, you're the baddies and even old school, died in the wool liberals like Bill Maher are waking up to it.  And I say that as a hard core centrist, in the true sense of the word. 

As someone who is a progressive, at least how the Roosevelts would have viewed it in the quotes in my signature, it bothers me so much to see these sorts of things. There are speakers who are intentionally seeking to incite responses from people, and those folks should not be invited to campuses not because of their viewpoints but simply because they are not there for civil discourse. We should always promote the free exchange of ideas in academia and those whose intention it is to cause a disturbance are not furthering that cause. Don't like someone's viewpoint? Hold counter programming. Share your opinions (signs are still in windows on my campus from the anti-trans speaker we had last year). But let them say their peace.

Honestly, sometimes it is good to hear from these folks. One of my favorite events was listening to Carly Fiorina speak (she is on our board of visitors, though all I can ever think of when she is mentioned is her demon sheep ad, IYKYK). She has an interesting story and is a good speaker. I disagree with her on a lot of things, but I enjoyed the experience. Sometimes, I even read books written by right wing zealot types with premises I find highly frustrating and farcical. I would throw the book if I owned it, but I will only check it out of the library because I don't want to give them any money. At least they are easy reads; they have to play to their audience.