Israel/Hamas War Superthread

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(04-11-2024, 05:26 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Hamas caused their deaths.  They are responsible for their murder.  it's not that complicated.
Got it?
Absolutely.  How would it not be?

Say a person takes a hostage.  A police sniper is given the order to take out the hostage taker.  The shot is fired, hits the hostage taker, but a fragment of the bullet splits off and kills the hostage.  Did the sniper kill the hostage or did the hostage taker cause their death?

Also, good to see your buddy finds the deaths of hostages a source of amusement though.  This thread has really shed a light on what passes for the values of some of our left leaning posters.  Rather abhorrent.

Say two hostages get free in Gaza, take off their shirts to show they have no weapons, and carry a white flag towards the IDF. 

An IDF sniper, seeing the flag and no weapons, shoots them anyway. One is wounded and crawls into a building. 

An IDF officer gives the order to finish off the unarmed, wounded man. Did the sniper kill the hostage? Well, maybe not the second one.

Family members think it's complicated. It was not a ricochet which killed either hostage.  Not ok if they "didn't know who they were." 

Two unarmed people carrying a white flag died because the IDF didn't take the requisite care for civilian life. That's "too complicated."

And looks like that's the routine.  Were it not routine, two hostages would have been recovered. Even if Hamas is "ultimately responsible."

(04-11-2024, 05:26 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Oh, I'm quite certain they all hold Hamas ultimately responsible.  They may take issue with Netanyahu's attempts to retrieve their loved ones, but I can rather safely say none of them hold anyone more responsible for their loved one's deaths than the animals in Hamas.

It's not complicated for Netanyahu. That's why the parents "take issue." 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/09/netanyahu-rejected-ceasefire-for-hostages-deal-in-gaza-sources-say

(04-11-2024, 05:26 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: The "occupiers"?!?  Gaza was not occupied by anyone but the Palestinians and their elected Hamas overlords until Hamas declared war on Israel with a cowardly sneak attack on civilians.

Right. Gaza was like a sovereign state. Then the Hamas cowards decided to attack the most powerful country in the ME. 

The less you know, the simpler this gets.  Got it?