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Is Biden's "Don't" foreign policy deterring terrorist groups and Iran?
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(04-14-2024, 04:33 PM)Dill Wrote: ?? What sort of pact?  One of the outstanding features of the Iran Deal was that it allowed invasive monitoring of Iran's 
nuclear program. That's gone now. No one was basing any deal on "honor."

After keeping their word on the Iran Deal for years, even after Trump broke our word, they finally decided in 2020 to rebuild their
enrich program and to engage more centrifuges. Now we are on the verge of a war with Iran, a TREMENDOUS incentive for them now
to create a bomb. 

The Billions released to Iran were and still are held in Qatar, where they can only be used to buy humanitarian goods. 
The Iranians were not given a tub of 100 dollar bills they could then divvy up between Hamas and Hezbollah. Er wait, I believe 
even those funds were frozen in 2023 and still are. 

I'm hoping people get a bit more skeptical of the "Iran-as-puppetmaster" explanation of the current conflict. The primary driver is
still Palestinian dispossession. 

The article I posted for you fairly crows about how Trump effected an end run around the Palestinians, to isolate them so they'd have
to come to the peace table on Israeli terms, with no more powerful Arab friends. 

Couple that with busted Iran Deal, and that should rebut Luvnit's "ME was handled under Trump" thesis. We are living with the fallout
of Trump's chaotic policy and many decades of protecting Israel's occupation instead of using our influence to leverage them to the
peace table. 

How often in the history of US foreign relations has "strong" turned out to be just dumb? A cultivated perception and no more. 

They were going to create a bomb whether there was a deal in place or not. I'm not sure why you dismiss their history of not being cooperative, yet history is important when it comes to Israel. 

I'm aware of how the money is being monitored and setup. but think about it, now the money they were using for that is freed to use for "other discretionary things". Don't pretend otherwise. If CC debts are eating up half of your money, and suddenly you don't have to worry about it for several years, that means half you money is open for you to use how ever you desire. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. 

Pretty sure most of the other "powerful" Arab countries have already signed peace deals with Israel. The P's have had many years to come to the table with "powerful" backing yet make demands they know Israel won't agree, but Israel did give concessions a few times yet P's still rejected. I don't think the P's are interested in the kind of Peace you want them to be interested in. So yes, it's a good thing to bring them to the table on their knees and realize that they aren't going to get all that they want. Maybe it's that outside interference that keeps causing problems with the deals.

So in your eyes, none of these other things matter as much as the P's dispossession? 
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RE: Is Biden's "Don't" foreign policy deterring terrorist groups and Iran? - Mike M (the other one) - 04-14-2024, 05:48 PM

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