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Marjorie Taylor Greene Demands Space Lasers To Combat Migrants
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(04-19-2024, 10:59 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I recall when the OK symbol was suddenly a sign of "white supremacy".  Interestingly, the idea was started as a joke by /pol, to see if they could get the "normies" to believe something stupid, so they started the concept.  Sure enough, it took off and even when it was revealed as a joke it was then claimed that white supremacist groups had actually started using it as such, hence it was now a white supremacist symbol.  People lost their jobs doing it.  People were suspended from school for doing it.  
The point of this being, maybe "from the river to the sea" was once a chant simply calling for peaceful "liberation" of the Palestinians.  But it has been coopted by Hamas, who quite clearly state that it means the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jewish people.  So, exactly like your side claiming that using the OK hand gesture was a white supremacist symbol, despite it starting as a complete joke, if you use that phrase you do so knowing what it means to millions of people, that being genocide.
So, I'm sorry to report that if you use it, if you're ok with using it, then you are advocating for genocide whether you personally mean it that way or not.

Sort that out under cross examination.

Sure, but I'll need some cooperation from the witness. No pleading the 5th.

Court records show you have discussed the "OK" symbol's evolution from ok to white power trope at least twice before in this forum.

But in each case, you argued that the primary meaning of the phrase was NOT changed because it was appropriated by some evil group. Now you are arguing exactly that.

For example, check the bolded rhetorical question in this response to JJ in post #432 on the Rittenhouse thread.

(11-20-2021, 03:01 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: jj22 Wrote: It was the White supremacist goups themselves who adopted and stated the "OK" sign was their sign.

Incorrect, as already explained.  But it raises the question, is the above picture of St. Michael a white supremacy symbol now?  Using your logic the answer would have to be yes.  What if white supremacists started using the rainbow flag as a symbol of white supremacy, would that make anyone who flew the rainbow flag a white supremacist?

Sure it wasn't in the past as we all know, but this was their new thing. One that they are proud of and openly embraced . Not sure why others who refuse to acknoledge. Maybe because they are told white supremacist don't exists and believe that even tho they are open and public.

Or, a third option, they understand the absurdity of believing the OK hand sign is all of the sudden a white supremacy gesture, especially when it was started entirely as a troll on the left.  Which they took hook, line and sinker.

We have to get past the point where people tell us exactly who they are and we because of politcs make excuses for them and write it off as "oh they don't really mean it", "it's just the OK symbol"....

Once again, the irony meter is pinned.

If we can steady the irony meter a moment,

perhaps the witness can explain the 180 degree turn in effect from white supremacist appropriation to Hamas'?

An "absurdity" to think White supremacists can fix the meaning of a public symbol after the fact, but suddenly Hamas can do exactly that.

If Hamas started using the rainbow flag as a symbol of Israel-hate, would that make anyone who flew it an advocate for genocide,
whether they personally intended it that way or not? Why, for you, are they more powerful than white supremacists?
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