Israel/Hamas War Superthread

[Dill]

(04-26-2024, 08:33 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Yes, they are uninformed bigots.  If you can support Hamas you are either a bigot or you are uninformed as to what they do.  There is no other option.
I don't think a factual point accurately stated is pompous.

Supporting Palestinian rights =/= "supporting Hamas."  Just as acknowledging Israeli war crimes is not "mitigating Hamas." 

The claim protestors are "bigots" is a value judgment, based on a claim of fact you've yet to establish. 
If it's only ok for you to call people "bigots," then again you except yourself from your own standards.

(04-26-2024, 08:33 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I haven't seen a lot of evidence that protestors are "with Hamas." They seem to be standing with
people illegally held under military occupation. That's why I asked you to supply evidence of Hamas advocacy.
Your evidence so far has been that they support Palestinians, and some Palestinians are Hamas.
Which I call, yes, bad reasoning, even if some Hamas are Palestinian. It is not a kind of reasoning
which can be aligned with the fundamentals of human rights law.

You're lying here and it would only take someone reading the last few posts to know it.  They advocate for freeing all Palestinian prisoners.  This includes a very large number of convicted Hamas murderers.  If the sign said free all non-Hamas prisoners you'd have a point.  It didn't, so you don't.  So this kid is either ignorant of the Hamas prisoners or they know and don't care, which which would them a bigoted terrorist supporter.

Anyone who knows how to follow arguments from evidence would know you are not arguing from evidence,
while calling me a "liar" for refusing to follow you beyond what the evidence allows.

The protestors want and end to the war inflicting mass casualties on civilians,
They want an end to the illegal occupation.
And they want people illegally imprisoned under the occupation to be freed. 

That's why their signs say "End the War," "End the Occupation" and "Free Palestinian prisoners." 

According to your logic, anyone with a sign advocating for Palestinian human rights is really advocating for Hamas' rights
--unless the sign says "Human rights for all non-Hamas Palestinians." 

Or "End the Occupation for non-Hamas Palestinians."