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(04-29-2024, 03:36 PM)PDub80 Wrote: See, I can read this and appreciate why you're not fawning all over the guys you listed.... while also acknowledging that you want them to succeed to the highest degree possible. Personally, I LOVED their draft. I think they did well. But I also think a good draft is 1 star, 1 excellent player, 1 very good starter, and 1 reliable backup. If they get that in any draft, it's an awesome draft.


Out of your list, I think Newton & Jenkins have a great chance to be one of the 4 guys in this draft who need to matter. Doesn't mean I don't like the others you've got down. But I like those 2 a lot. The DE is interesting to me. I think he is one of those guys who will benefit by being next to really good players. He had no help at Ole Miss.

Something people are missing here with this "It's just a XYZ round pick" is that the reason the Bengals had to let Bates go is also the reason they are probably struggling to pay Higgins,: The Bengals have had to pay a fortune to Free Agents due to not just missing star players... but whiffing on so many draft picks several years running that they have to go sign really high priced FAs to be able to have impact players.

Reader, Hendrickson, Hill, Bell, Brown Jr, The Body Guard, Cappa, Karras.


- Hell, their entire 2024 starting O line, save for a 4th round LG, is going to be FA signings. That is a position group of MONSTER NEED and the Bengals have missed horribly. That group cannot just get by like they do with LBs, TEs, & RBs and the Bengals have crapped the bed so bad at OL - to the tune of HUGE payouts to FAs - causing a ripple effect through the roster.


If something as simple as any 2 out of: Carman, Carter, Wren, Shelvin, Mike Jordan, Smith, Hill, & Adeniji were even avg to good draft picks, Jessie Bates would still be on the team and Higgins would have a long term deal. The money they are paying the guys who had to be signed to avoid the continued slaughter of JB9 is what is stopping them from signing high impact guys elsewhere. That doesn't mean I hate the O linemen that are on the team. Quite the opposite! They are NEEDED and doing valuable work. I just wish 2 of them could have been draft picks on rookie deals the last 3 seasons.


I don't think people realize that when the Bengals piss away 4th rounders that it kills them keeping star players. They are going to miss on plenty of draft picks. It happens.... But man, some of these drafts are DISGUSTINGLY awful.... And it hurts the Bengals to grab guys who won't be 100% going into the offseason.

Jenkins just isn't very exciting to me.
Hard for me to fall in love with a guy who only had 4.5 sacks in college over 35+ games though, while being under 300 lbs.
I know he has a great motor and is really good against the run, but that doesn't always translate to being a great DT.
I see maybe a BJ Hill type of guy in Jenkins. And I like Hill, but he's not an upper tier pass rushing DT.
Or maybe Jenkins is supposed to be the Reader replacement and Jackson is the Tupou backup replacement.
I just need to see these where the Bengals end up slotting these guys this preseason.

What is it about Newton that you like?
I'm worried he doesn't have enough speed and twitch to stick to receivers in the NFL. And he doesn't have height and length to compensate for lack of speed.
A pretty close athletic comparison I see is Darqueze Dennard.
Both 5'11". Both ran a 4.51. Dennard didn't test on the agility drills, but Newton's agility was just meh.
If it's ok to get Dennard-like production out of him, maybe that's ok then. I just know most were happy when Dennard left.