Welcome Kris Jenkins

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(05-02-2024, 02:04 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I guess 4 years ago he was a 240lbs freshman DE.

I don't think he is a finished product. But he showed he could turn in to a National Championship caliber DT who excels as a run stopper. The nice thing, and what made him worth the second rounder to me, is the unique big man athletic skills. I don't know how often he got to "pin his ears back" in the scheme he was in.

Been around football his whole life, son of a NFL Pro Bowler, 3 star recruit, changed positions, gained 60lbs, team captain, won the natty, turned into The Mutant 6'3" 305, and is willing to do whatever you ask of him on the football field. DT was high on the priority list. Man you are picky.

Maybe I'd feel better if there was a similar player in the NFL that is successful? Like, are there are any 300 lb DTs that aren't great pass rushers that are pro bowlers?

I'm going down the list of elite DTs that are around 300 lbs (or less in some cases) and all of them were elite pass rushers in college:
Quinnen Williams
Johnathan Allen
DeForest Buckner
Javon Hargrave
Fletcher Cox
Geno Atkins

All of the above had at least 1 7.5 sack season in college.

Even Ed Oliver, who didn't put up big sack numbers (13.5 in 3 seasons) in college had 53 TFL in 3 seasons, so he still showed his prowess as a penetrating 3T, even if it didn't result in as many sacks. 

Maybe Kobie Turner would be a good comp for him? Kobie only had 2 sacks in his final year of college after transferring, which is similar to Jenkins' 2.5 sacks. But even Kobie had 10 TFL in his final year of college, whereas Jenkins has never exceeded 4.5 TFL in a single season. 

I don't have all the advanced statistics on every DT that came out of college, so maybe some of these guys had a sub 10% pass rush win rate like Jenkins as well but, looking at just production stats (sacks, TFL), I am not finding a player who was not a good pass rusher in college, was 300 lbs or less, and then came to the NFL and became an elite DT.