Israel/Hamas War Superthread

[Belsnickel]

(05-08-2024, 11:26 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: There's a rather important difference and it is underlined above.  The bought the territory, they didn't seize it.  If I buy land that you occupy you don't get to "resist" my ownership, at least not in any lawful society.  Where the analogy starts to work a bit is that land being declared part of a separate nation.  Oddly enough, you essentially described the majority of US territorial expansion.  Should we give all those lands back to the Native Americans?

The point being that the toothpaste is well out of the tube on this one.  We're dealing with a problem started by another country close to eighty years ago.  The biggest issue being that there is no compromise that will accommodate both sides now, it's become entrenched in religion and racism.  It may not have been when this started but it damned sure is now.  Even if you shrank Israel back to its 1948 borders this conflict would continue in exactly the same manner.

So, serious question, do you see any compromise that would be remotely accepted by either side that would actually end this conflict?  Let's say you have deific powers to impose a "solution" that cannot involve changing peoples way of thought.  What solution could you impose that would resolve this?

Well, it's not a difference to the analogy because that is how the Zionist movement began in the 19th century. They started buying land in the area with the intention of establishing a Jewish state. Then, after WWII Britain just gave them the remainder. And I am aware that the analogy is very similar to US territorial expansion; why do you think almost all of the Native activists over here side with the Palestinian cause? They see what happened to them in those people.

I don't have an answer for a compromise; I truly don't. All I know is that right now there are thousands of innocent people dying and thousands more suffering because of choices made by people who have control over their fates and they have no way to escape it. War crimes are committed against them and they are left to starve because of it. I am just tired of messaging from nations, organizations, and people on this board that seem to lose sight of this. I have a great deal of empathy for the Palestinian people because I can understand why they would be upset with their displacement and abandonment in many ways by the global community.

We fought the "Indian Wars" for almost 300 years to quell the uprisings of the indigenous people on this continent. It will probably take even longer for this conflict given the record will be much more available.