05-08-2024, 12:27 PM
(05-08-2024, 12:06 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Well, it's not a difference to the analogy because that is how the Zionist movement began in the 19th century. They started buying land in the area with the intention of establishing a Jewish state. Then, after WWII Britain just gave them the remainder. And I am aware that the analogy is very similar to US territorial expansion; why do you think almost all of the Native activists over here side with the Palestinian cause? They see what happened to them in those people.
I don't have an answer for a compromise; I truly don't. All I know is that right now there are thousands of innocent people dying and thousands more suffering because of choices made by people who have control over their fates and they have no way to escape it. War crimes are committed against them and they are left to starve because of it. I am just tired of messaging from nations, organizations, and people on this board that seem to lose sight of this. I have a great deal of empathy for the Palestinian people because I can understand why they would be upset with their displacement and abandonment in many ways by the global community.
We fought the "Indian Wars" for almost 300 years to quell the uprisings of the indigenous people on this continent. It will probably take even longer for this conflict given the record will be much more available.
You rather hit the nail on the head here. There is no compromise available now. The whole issue is inextricably enmeshed with religious extremism and outright racism. And that goes for both sides. I don't think you'll find a person on this board, or in many other places, who doesn't feel bad for children embroiled in a conflict they obviously had nothing to do with. As I stated earlier, I have tremendous sympathy for the civilians of Germany and Japan in WW2. The question is does that sympathy extend towards allowing continued governance of said people by an aggressive, and in this case terrorist, organization/government? Do I think eliminating Hamas in Gaza will bring an end to the conflict? Absolutely not, even if such a thing were 100% possible. Do I think leaving them largely intact in Gaza would be worse in the long run? Absolutely yes.
Anyone outside this conflict is essentially left with only one choice, which side do you throw your weight behind? As you said, this is going to go on for some time, just like the Indian wars, and it will end the same way, with one side largely conquered and cowed. The result won't be pretty either way. For me, this is an easy decision, although not one decided lightly.
