Stormy kills Bragg case

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(05-09-2024, 05:36 PM)pally Wrote: Do you realize that many of those undocumented folks are working and paying taxes?  Can you imagine what food costs would be like without these workers laboring, on farms, ranches, orchards, and in meat processing facilities?

Illegals would do the jobs Americans either "don't want to do" or can't staff because people aren't having 5+ kids any more and we don't have a glut of young people who can skate by working for $7.50 an hour any more.  Of course, that's why we have to say we can't let them in because they are "rapists and murderers" in between our cries of "innocent until proven guilty" when it suits our case.

(05-09-2024, 05:39 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: If you do not follow, all good. I am not sure what you are getting at it seems.

People, not necessarily you, are putting declaring him guilty before a fair trial.  This is the same thing that was decried when other declared Joe Biden guilty of being bought and paid for with Hunter as the collector.

Two sides of the same coin, with each complaining about the other.

Guilt doesn't even matter when Trump is involved, and I'm not even saying he is guilty.  I'm saying his guilt doesn't seem to matter, but I'd lean towards him being guilty because people who aren't guilty of something tend not to say that they need to be immune from criminal prosecution. Trump also brags about committing criminal acts, such as the whole grab by the p***y thing, or him admitting that he intentionally undervalues his property estimates, that he walked into the dressing room where teen girls were in various stages of undress and so on and so forth.

Again, it just shows how Trump is a completely different human being than the rest of us.  He wasn't kidding when he said he could shoot someone in broad daylight...it's just amusing that unlike most people, that is a statement that is open to interpretation of approval.

But the whole guilty/not guilty thing isn't a fool proof system, it's just the only one we have.  

I'm just using my 1A to put Trump in the same boat as OJ, Michael Jackson, Casey Anthony, and all those pedos caught in the Texas To Catch A Predator sting who got off on a technicality....probably guilty, but meh....got lucky.  I'll call those folks probably murderers and probably kiddie diddlers and I'll avoid them accordingly.  I don't have to let someone who was "not guilty" of fiddling kids into my home and I don't have to change my opinion of Trump based upon this.  With that being said, if any jury is representative of the US population, at least one person on the jury would help Trump murder their own mother, so he can't get a "fair trial" on either side of the yay or nay.

Most folks get as much jail time as they've earned, some folks get jail time for stuff they didn't do, some folks get away with stuff they did.



EDIT - Oh and another amusing thing is that a lot of the "Trump is innocent" argument is based upon the idea that Biden and other agents are engaging in criminal acts to prevent Trump from returning to power, as in they are saying our system is guilty without the requisite criminal convictions.