05-23-2024, 05:17 PM
(05-23-2024, 02:07 PM)Dill Wrote: The Palestinians did not drive Israelis from their land and box them in Gaza, then build a wall to protect from reprisal for that theft.
This looks "very much a chicken or the egg argument" only when you start with effects to deny causes.
You are very correct. They did not drive the Israelis from their land. They tried multiple times and got their ass kicked each time, resulting in their current situation.
Quote:Unless one is hopelessly embedded in EITHER/OR, investigating Israel for war crimes along with Hamas is not eo ipso
"turning a blind eye to the deliberate actions of Hamas."
One would be forgiven for thinking otherwise when they treat them both as equivalent actors.
Quote:It would be Israel's free fire zones which handed Hamas a "huge propaganda victory," if there were such, but there isn't.
Hamas is a pariah among Muslim nations now; all wish to be rid of them.
Iran says hi.
Quote:Israel and the IDF are much more skilled at manipulating US opinion than Hamas, as evidenced by the constant repetition of their propaganda
in forums like this. E.g., in Israel, IDF use of civilian hostages has been front and center in Israeli in-house debates and policy for almost three decades
now. "Hamas uses human shields" and "Civilians deaths are Hamas strategy" are for foreign consumption.
Hamas is much better at manipulating the current crop of ideological extreme and ignorant youth. TikTok would like you to know why Osama Bin Laden was right and all.
