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5/30 ruling against Trump
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(05-31-2024, 08:31 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I believe all sides agree it was a book keeping error, and did not move the needle on anyone voting for or against DJT.
This is a pretty naive take. 

Boy howdy. Someone wasn't following the evidence or legal arguments.

(05-31-2024, 08:31 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I believe all sides agree it was a book keeping error, and did not move the needle on anyone voting for or against DJT.
This is a pretty naive take. The polling we have seen shows that, yes, 75-80% of voters will not change their positions on Trump based on this. However, in a race this close, that 20-25% on the margins will make a difference. Will they be swayed? Uncertain at this point. We will see what comes out in the next few weeks. Right now the right wing media and the Trump campaign are playing defense by making the claims that are the basis for what you say here. It's their job to say these things, so I don't begrudge them, but it also isn't necessarily reality.

We're going to see a lot of that going forward--interpretations of the trial that dismiss evidence and law, but line up with
Kilmeade or Hannity's daytime radio guests. There's a great deal of anxiety in those venues because of earlier polls showing that
a fraction of Trump voters claim a felony conviction would keep them home on election day. E.g.,
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/most-americans-wouldn-t-vote-for-trump-if-he-s-convicted-of-a-felony-poll-202245189959

I'm also interested in what happens to the jurors, and will be very surprised if MAGA faithful are not working to dox them right now.
If the names come out, then FoxMax commentators will comb their backgrounds Trump-style, in search of "bias." ("Juror 10 had a 'Mexican'
surname! Juror 12's husband donated to the Biden campaign!") Intimidating election workers has had a negative effect on volunteers 
and on confidence in election integrity; intimidating jurors will likely have a similar effect on legal process, at least in MAGA cases.
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RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Luvnit2 - 05-30-2024, 10:48 PM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - pally - 05-31-2024, 12:32 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - pally - 05-31-2024, 07:50 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - GMDino - 05-31-2024, 08:28 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Dill - 05-31-2024, 10:20 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - pally - 05-31-2024, 08:38 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Belsnickel - 05-31-2024, 08:31 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Dill - 05-31-2024, 09:35 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Belsnickel - 05-31-2024, 08:33 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - GMDino - 05-31-2024, 08:35 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - CKwi88 - 05-31-2024, 10:10 AM
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RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - GMDino - 05-31-2024, 03:54 PM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Belsnickel - 05-31-2024, 08:46 AM
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RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - GMDino - 05-31-2024, 10:15 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Belsnickel - 05-31-2024, 10:37 AM
RE: 5/30 ruling against Trump - Dill - 05-31-2024, 12:19 PM
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