Who should be Trump's VP choice and why?

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(06-10-2024, 05:23 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: This is just like Butker's speech all over again, you guys are putting things in there that was never said just to make someone look bad.  But yet when someone does it to one of your hero's you are quick to point it out that they never actually said that.

Yes, rather like that. Butker said young women had been seduced by "diabolical lies" regarding careers outside the home 
when their true calling was marriage and motherhood, and you heard him praising women's right to choose their path in life.

He also claimed Congress passed a bill which would jail people for telling the "truth" about who killed Jesus, and apparently
thinks any form of birth control controverts the will of God.  

What my "heros" have focused on is exactly what was said, in both cases. Your heroes are denying what was said. In both cases.

(06-10-2024, 05:23 AM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: He was referring to the time when black families were stronger by staying together and that they've lost their way.

Donalds was referring to a time when, statistically, all families Black or White, under Jim Crow or not, stayed together more often and longer.

So he was trying to make a policy argument from history, but with a very confused and inadequate understanding of that history.

E.g., He DEFINITELY said more Black people voted conservatively under Jim Crow, right? "The Left" isn't making that up, right? 
Nevermind that they generally weren't allowed to vote under Jim Crow; what exactly would conservative Blacks be 
voting for under Jim Crow, except politicians who supported segregation? 

You are right to say he wasn't really trying to praise Jim Crow. He was praising family behavior before big government stepped in
to end segregation and promote affirmative action and other social policies designed to pull Blacks out of artificially created poverty.
Black conservatism played a rather negative role in that struggle for equality. But now its a reliable guide to bettering Black lives?  

Donalds was quite inept in using Jim Crow to mark the good old days. If that strange imprecision gives rise to "false narratives" that's on him.
He made his understanding of Jim Crow, or lack thereof, a legitimate story.  It's no defense to claim he didn't bring up "the bad" when
he referenced Jim Crow. It's hard to claim he's being taken "out of context" when he himself has fouled up the context so badly.

Black conservatism used to emphasize personal accountability.