06-12-2024, 03:15 PM
(06-12-2024, 01:51 PM)hollodero Wrote: OK, fair enough. I will still hope it never ever comes to that. Besides other things, it might result in a humanitarian crisis.
I agree, but sometimes you have to be willing to hold people's feet to the fire.
Quote:Ah well, I might have made a leap here. I for one do not think Trump is savvy enough to reach a diplomatic solution that ends the war for good and leaves Ukraine's souvereignty intact. Maybe you do, or maybe you have another more positive plan for an end to this war. I thought the way Trump ends the war is simply by withdrawing US support for Ukraine, at which point said end means a loss for Ukraine. Europe could not compensate all US contributions and so the country would get overrun by Russian forces.
Got it. I think it could literally be as simple as promising not to he Ukraine join NATO. Withdrawal to pre-war borders and that's it. I don't think any ending that involves Russia being punished or to lose face is possible without escalating the conflict.
