Pelosi Took responsibility for Jan. 6th

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(06-12-2024, 04:06 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I don't think he had the power to stop it. He did ask the protestors to be peaceful. But you had a lot of people who felt (and many still do) that the election was rigged. They felt like their democracy had been stolen and they were angry.

Which is an idea that Donald Trump put in their head, falsely, since there is no evidence the election was actually rigged in Biden's favor. I can not possibly declare Trump free of guilt for so intensely propagating that lie. And all these people were sent by him, they all were convinced that they were acting on Trump's behalf and acting on his wishes. Had he made it clear that violence and storming the Capitol was not in his interest, immediately after the violence unfolded, it possibly would have gone a long way to end it way sooner. At the very least, he should have tried and failing to do so makes him morally guilty in my book.

(06-12-2024, 04:06 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: There were only a few bad actors at this protest when the attendance as a whole is considered. 

Well, I don't really think so, but I can't really prove otherwise in a way that you would be convinced. Admittedly, I generally have a hard time imagining how good people march alongside proud boys, oathkeepers and the like - who mostly were not disguised in any way, but showed openly what kind of people they were. To me it's similar to the whole Charlottesville situation, where allegedly good people marched alongside Nazis who shouted Nazi things. Imho, that just is not what good people do.
Btw. this answer is not meant to be confrontational. I am aware that everyone here opposes violence.