Hunter Biden Trial Begins

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(06-13-2024, 12:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: All true.  I do feel another factor needs to be considered here as well.  You correctly mentioned that people have made the Biden is a pedophile "earmark" argument in the past.  One of the major differences in these two claims is that the laptop deniers had a very willing and complicit media just aching to help disseminate their plausibly deniable Russian disinformation claim.  And it's fairly obvious to anyone who paid even a little attention that the media was all in on nailing Trump, and still is.

You will get no argument from me on that one. Your major media outlets are all deeeply partisan and not exactly trustworthy. It's pretty disastrous and it's not like it's just the laptop story that brought that fact to light.

(06-13-2024, 12:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Given all the above I don't have a lot of patience with left leaning people trying to explain this away.

Well, I have, at least some. I also learned to have some patience with right leaning people explaining things away. It's what this whole coin-like system just does to people, when you more or less automatically help the other party and their stubborn apologets by admitting the flaws of your own side. And I get it - to a point. I might not behave much differently if I were actually an American.

(06-13-2024, 12:47 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I am not including yourself, you certainly acknowledge the very real possibility this was done intentionally.  For most this is yet another claim they have to scramble and backtrack on, all the while claiming they never claimed what they claimed in the first place.  And that's a lot of claims.

Well, I sure dismissed the laptop story too, but I get your point. I know better now, it would be nice if more people could just state as much.