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Oil Surplus Predicted This Decade
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(06-14-2024, 11:58 AM)Stewy Wrote: It isn't just OPEC that is predicting max Oil for years out much longer than IEA, most of the big bank lenders are doing the same.  Why?  Because EV's are becoming a bust, US buyers don't want them.  It's becoming clear that they are more expensive and just as dirty as combustion engines because electricity is still very dirty.  

On top of that Renewable installation is behind estimates due to supply chain and rare earth mineral and copper shortages slowing down progress.  And on top of that the US energy grid CANNOT support an EV future.  Period - no question.  Because the US energy grid is controlled by local utilities and not the Fed, there is very little the Fed can do to fix this issue aside from providing loans and incentives to encourage local utilities to upgrade their grids.  Biden has started down this path, but the amount their offering is a joke and not within 1% of the amount needed to get us to an EV future.  I really this isn't just about the US, but as the US goes, so goes the world.  3rd world countries produce the most pollution, thus if the US can't get it's act in gear, then what of the 3rd world?

IEA is out to lunch and has an agenda that it is highly unrealistic considering the above.  They won't move their peak oil outlook beyond 2030, until they're forced to do so in 2029.

These are not simple issues.  One can't just say "let's just do it".  Sure!  Where's the money coming from?  The materials?  The manpower?  On top of that renewables have the same decommissioning and pollution problems as oil and gas.  Renewables wear out.  Need replaced or fixed, all of which will require more materials and all those materials take energy produce.  

The good news is that scientists and industry are innovating efficiency and progressive break throughs every day.  But the technology (battery power, storage, efficiency, upgraded power grid, etc.) we need for an EV future simply doesn't exist yet.  Thus the IEA's estimation of peak oil in 2030 is ridiculous.

Came here for this response.  We've raised the topic of the grid not being able to handle EV's several times in the past.  We have rolling blackouts here during the summer just because of people using their AC, and charging an EV is equivalent, if not more energy intensive than running an AC.  I would add to your substantive post that EV's are also extremely labor intensive to produce, i.e. the rare earth mining and other raw materials needed have a substantive carbon footprint of their own.  Not to mention that the batteries will wear out, cost almost as much as the entire car and are highly toxic waste once they're no longer usable.

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RE: Oil Surplus Predicted This Decade - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-14-2024, 12:25 PM

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