Project 2025

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(06-18-2024, 03:39 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Most (66%) support a three month limit for abortions, which is a vast majority of abortions. I believe that is a reasonable line to draw.
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/26/1171863775/poll-americans-want-abortion-restrictions-but-not-as-far-as-red-states-are-going

Sounds like you would not be for a nation-wide Texas-style ban on all abortions, even in cases of rape and incest, regardless of age.

(06-18-2024, 03:39 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Since the issue is whether Project 2025 signals a minority imposing its will on the majority, two questions: 
1)  Looks to me like Project 2025 is about criminalizing all abortion, not protecting some amalgam majority from "radicals." But can you offer links or some evidence of whom the "radicals" are, especially those who endorse killing a baby who survives a botched abortion? That sounds a bit like previous Sharia and CRT panics. 

The issue many have is with the far left radicals who want no limit on abortions and will not answer questions directly when ask regarding such, as they know howfar that is off the reservation.

1. It is currently up to the state. I support abortions up to a point, as most do, in accordance with where they likely think it is more a baby than a clump of cells.

The question was, can you link me to some evidence of "far left radicals" who endorse killing babies who survive abortions. Pretty sure I would be against that, but I'd just like to know if that's really a thing. Have radical far leftists managed to get this into law somewhere? 

If it is "up to the state," then which states do this? 

(06-18-2024, 03:39 PM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Regarding your "amalgam in the middle," how many do you suppose would go along with a national ban on distributing "Abortion pills" through the mail, as appears to be the intent announced on page 562 of chap 17, Project 2025? 

2. I am not against abortion. I am against the insane idea that full term abortion should be legal, or legal under all circumstance, which is a vast minority, or at least it should be.
Banning abortion pills? Depends on the access, assessment, and potential damage done by sending the pills out versus not doing so. I have not read up on the pill and potential side effects, so I will hold back from putting an opinion out on that, as I am not educated on the medicine and overall effects.

Right now there is good reason to believe that if Trump is elected, his team will do everything in their power to impose Texas-style abortion bans on the nation. Even in vitro fertilization might be outlawed. If I understand you, that would not reflect your views on abortion.

Is there any reason to believe that if Biden is elected, he will work to further what you call the "radical far left" abortion agenda? 

Is the choice between a national ban on abortions and "the insiane idea that full term abortion should be legal"?
Or is the choice between a national ban on abortions and a return to pre-Dobbs reproductive rights for women? 

BTW Apparently the consensus of medical professionals is that abortion pills are safe. 
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/abortion-pills-are-very-safe-and-effective-yet-government-rules-still-hinder-access/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/04/01/health/abortion-pill-safety.html
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/medication-abortion-your-questions-answered