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(06-19-2024, 07:20 AM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Why are we going in circles?
I stated my position, and the position of the majority of US citizens, along with my concerns regarding medication without touching on potential issues with shipping it across state lines and mail potentially being compromised.

Why indeed?  You were given access to the medical consensus on medication abortion. Now the problem is "compromised mail"? 
Is that a problem with any other medication? If you keep saying you need to see evidence, get it, and your concerns continue with additions,
that's only a "circle" because evidence is ignored or discounted.

On the Butker thread you positioned yourself as a centrist with all those Americans who don't like extremism of EITHER "left" OR right. 
Similarly, on this thread, post #26 you positioned yourself as a centrist, but flagged only "left" extremism as "the issue."

If I recall correctly, the centrist, majority opinion, is abortion with a term limit, such as not beyond 15 weeks.
The issue is radicals endorsing full term abortions and killing the child in the case of a botched abortion where the baby survives.
The majority option is not 100% pro-life, or 100% pro-choice, but an amalgam in the middle.
Whichever side is painting it differently is wrong. Such as you in this instance.

And positioned me as "painting it differently" and "wrong." 

Trying to get credible evidence of the bolded resulted in a kind of circle. Pally couldn't. I couldn't. You did say the abortion question had been left up to the states, as if there are states somewhere where babies who survive an abortion are killed.   I had to produce the evidence myself, in the form of a crazy Trump speech. I.e., you've produced no evidence there is some national "far left" extremist threat to impose full term abortions and botched abortion infanticide at the on the entire U.S. which should be an "issue" for voters comparable to Project 2025. That "issue" only exists in right wing rhetoric.

But I did produce evidence of a far right plan to impose Texas-style ban on the nation, online and public, one which should qualify as "extremist" given your understanding of an "amalgam" comfortable with abortion during the first trimester.  If you were really right there in the middle rejecting "extremism" from both ends of the political spectrum, why would you reject Trump's imaginary "leftist" botched abortion infanticide threat, but make your peace with an extremist right threat to outlaw abortion, even abortion medication? Why would you take the former seriously but not the latter? 

(06-19-2024, 07:20 AM)FormerlyBengalRugby Wrote: Sounds like another issue I may not agree with DJT on.

I think you will find that many people who intend to vote for DJT are not lockstep with everything he is about, but are voting for him anyways because DJT is the better of two bad options.

What I'm finding is that many people who intend to vote for DJT don't have a very clear idea of what he plans to do as president. And when shown, they brush off public evidence as "leftist rhetoric."  I'm also finding that people who don't believe what Trump and  his team say they will do, DO believe what Trump says Biden will do--e.g., help the "radical far left" impose full term abortion and post-term infanticide on Americans.

So that's how they find DJT the better of two bad options--ignoring what he says he will do, while believing what he says Biden will do. 
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