06-12-2015, 01:44 PM
(06-12-2015, 01:17 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote:Quote:Ok it won't let me quote you ....You just said a few posts ago they would've found a more reasonable surrender solution...what? In bold is exactly what I've saying regarding that specific issue. No matter whether we enter the war or not, if they win they would've asked for harsh conditions. It's a moot point. We're going no where on this subject, you say we should have stayed out of WWI, WWII, I say we really didn't have much of choice. We both seem firm on our position, maybe it's time to agree to disagree on that.
1. Ofc France and Britain wanted a harsher surrender of Germany.... They lost loads and wanted compensated. The only way they get a harsh surrender is us getting into the war. Which coincides with Wilson's desires. He wanted to pick the winners. He wanted the allies to not only win but win big. Still doesn't mean we shouldn't have stayed out and let them fight their war.
Quote:2. Well I am slamming wilson and FDR because of I am specifically talking about their roles in war. i never said everything they did was bad... Your just assuming I did... Once we get on another topic that involves them... If praise is warranted i will praise. And yes they both had a choice. FDR wanted war, he told Churchill that many times. Just said congress nor the people would support a declaration of war. War helped both FDR and Wilson on a policy front. FDR had many failing domestic policies that war covered up.
Neither wanted war initially, Both had their hand forced. But once you commit you better go all in. And I'm the first to agree, that WWII probably did more to help end the depression. But he did a lot of good, better than Hoover IMO.
Quote:3. Yes some good lots of badI'd say more like lot's of good and bad.
Quote:4. Why do you think I am seeing it black and white? I am looking at history and applying... Just because I don't go along with the notion that we had to go to war two times.
Quote:5. Your list of presodents is odd. Why do you like TR and FDR? Those two stick out from the other three on policy. The rest of those are pretty good.I'll get back to both of these later, I have to take off. My ride is here.
