Last 2 Drafts

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(01-19-2016, 11:13 PM)Hammerstripes Wrote: I'm certainly not using any orange tinted glasses, but I am looking at them in the context of how they fit into our team.  You can't say just because they haven't accumulated a ton of stats that they are misses.  This team doesn't need rookies or even second year guys to be immediate starters.  Stats don't tell the entire story when it comes to judging these players.

Dre is a starter.  I don't consider him a miss.

Shawn Williams is playing behind a Pro-Bowler and one of the best young safeties in the league.  I don't consider him a miss.

Gio is part of a rotational approach, he isn't a miss.  Just because we took him instead of another guy that is better, doesn't mean he is a miss.  Is every DT drafted before Geno Atkins a miss?  According to your logic, they would be.

Sanu and Thompson are borderline, but they have been productive when they have played.  They are third rounders, getting that kind of contribution out of them is not bad.

-Kirkpatrick was a starter for one year out of four, and he was bad. Now he's either going to be a FA, or will need his 5th year option of like $7.5m picked up. That's a miss. If being a starter was an automatic hit, then Trent Richardson was a hit, Blaine Gabbert was a hit, Christian Ponder was a hit, etc, etc.

-If using a 3rd round pick and getting only 22 tackles back in the first two years isn't a miss, then there's no such thing as a miss in the NFL. Every single draft pick is a hit then.

-No, according to my logic, if the first DT taken in the draft is a rotational guy and there's a bunch of full time starters who were drafted behind him, THEN he's a miss. Not to mention, your example is rather shitty. Suh and McCoy (the 1st and 2nd DTs taken in that draft) were both drafted ahead of Atkins and both have more All-Pros than Atkins does. Nice try in attempting to intentionally twist my point without addressing the fact that Bernard was the first RB taken and ended up being roughly the sixth best RB in the draft.

-There is no way Sanu and Thompson are both borderline.
Sanu 2015: 60.9% of the offensive snap counts... 33 catches, 394 yards, 0 TD  (AKA not productive when playing) If that 60.9% looks like very little for some reason, AJ Green only played 88.3% and Marvin Jones played 85.3%, so Sanu played plenty. He just stinks and actually lost his starting job.
Thompson 2015: If you're a 3rd round pick fourth year player who's a healthy scratch for roughly half the season, you're a miss.