06-16-2015, 10:06 PM
(06-16-2015, 04:59 PM)JustWinBaby Wrote: Think someone may have mentioned it here, but I have to agree this may have been necessary to move the character on to his next stage of progression/action. He already turned down an out from Stannis, and I don't think there was another way to move him on from Castle Black without betraying his integrity/loyalty.
You could also argue that to truly become a great leader, the one lesson Jon really has yet to learn was betrayal and abandonment.
A lesson all Starks must learn but few survive. Unlike his father & half-brother, Jon may actually get a second chance. The obvious question in regards to that possibility is "How?". We seem to have 3 scenarios to work with...
- Melisandre - In both the books and the show, the red priestess is in Castle Black at the time of Jon's death. Though there is no evidence that she has performed such an act previously, she could resurrect him as the Brotherhood without Banners' red priest, Thoros of Myr, has done numerous times with Beric Dondarion. There is a lot of evidence & coincidence pointing in this direction. In the books, Melisandre was already starting to doubt her visions about Stannis long before the imminent battle outside of Winterfell. With her faith at least somewhat shaken, she may push towards making a desperate attempt at bringing Jon back (in much the same way Thoros desperately prayed for the Lightning Lord's return the very first time he died only to be pleasantly surprised when it actually worked) for fear of missing out (again) on the likely Azor Ahai reborn.
- Ghost - In the books, all of the Stark children are wargs to varying degrees, though that is only implied for all except Bran. Jon's final word is "Ghost" and there is speculation from this last page of Jon's final POV chapter that he may have warged into Ghost before the last dagger hit its mark. In the show, there is no hint about this ability existing in Jon (or any of the Stark children besides Bran) nor the reference to his direwolf prior to his death. It seems unlikely that this ability will be introduced in a future season as it will appear as nothing more than a convenient plot device to bring back a popular character after his death.
- R+L=J - Speaking of speculation, there has been plenty to feed this theory in both the books and the show. If true, it is believed that the burning of Jon's corpse could actually serve to bring him back to life. I'm not convinced (at least in this resurrection theory, anyway). Yes, Daenerys Targaryen survived the flames of her beloved's funeral pyre, but she was alive going in. Flames did not, however, bring Aemon Targaryen back to life. Also, the R+J=L revelation seems like it would be wasted on the Night's Watch.
Furthermore, what role, if any, will Melisandre play in Jon's destiny regardless of how he returns? Even if she is the reason for his resurrection and barring a significant change in his demeanor, it is unlikely he would be willing to be a party to many of her mysterious tactics, especially if Davos rallies to his side as well. Then again, if Melisandre truly does begin to put greater faith in Jon being Azor Ahai reborn, maybe she comes to learn the error of her ways and bends to Jon's will instead of the other way around.
I agree with most that believe Jon's story does not end at the hands of those who simply do not truly understand the immense threat that Jon is working so hard to help everyone survive. The show, moreso than the books, seems to support that. The interaction between the Night's King and Jon Snow at Hardhome (even at a distance) was chilling in its perceived significance. Jon is the only leader in Westeros, Essos & the entire world who truly knows the risk that lies ahead for all mankind. I simply cannot fathom that it has been for naught.
