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US military commander in Iraq and Syria rejects GOP pledges to 'carpet-bomb' Isis
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(02-03-2016, 03:49 PM)McC Wrote: First of all, we're not talking armies here.  There's no invasion.  It's killing fifty here, a hundred there.  All civilians, all non-combatants.  I'm not okay with that. 
Are we talking about killing 50 / 100 american civilians here and there?  On american soil?  What is keeping them from doing that today?  Wouldnt we be safer if we had our troops here to protect us from these threats that are apparently already present?

Quote:I get it.  You have some hard on against Israel.  So be it.   That's just something you'll have to live with.  Give me Israel over Jihadists any day of the week.

How is this a one or the other choice?  Currently we're supporting Isreal and it isn't helping the situation at all.  I'm not going to be quietly complicit as MY TAX DOLLARS go to contribute to a religiously motivated genocide.  You may be ok with illegitimate occupation and spraying of palestinian crops to control food supply, but I am not.


Quote:If you don't think we need to keep a close eye on Iran for our own sake, that's just more of you being naive.

I never said I consider anyone sub human.  The fact that they've accomplished next to nothing in thousands of years doesn't make them less human.  It just makes them less accomplished.  

If you did not say that, I apologize, that was unfair.

We can still keep an eye on Iran without the current military presence we have in the middle east.  And they were once a much more westernized state before our intervention.  To say they've accomplished nothing is a bit extreme.  If they haven't accomplished anything, why are we so afraid of them?
  

Quote:And only a fool would not take their threats seriously.  Even though their attacks are small potatoes, militarily speaking, it doesn't mean they aren't aiming higher.  They are out there chasing nukes and dirty bombs and anything they can get their hands on to inflict pain on us.

How can they get here?  They're already here.

You need to stop thinking of what should be and stat realizing what is.  Leaving the Middle East is not appeasing the enemy, it's just further enabling them.

If they are already here, what have our actions over there thus far accomplished?  It seems to me that we're only creating greater support for jihad / isis / AQ / general extremism by bombing the shit out of these people.  That's not an attempt at 'appeasing' the enemy, its a way to save american lives and reinvest in the betterment of our country rather than the destruction of another.  

I understand the reality.  The reality is the military industrial complex has made a lot of money in these endeavors and our soldiers and the US economy have been dealt the real blow.
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RE: US military commander in Iraq and Syria rejects GOP pledges to 'carpet-bomb' Isis - Vas Deferens - 02-03-2016, 05:00 PM

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