Intermediate step to beginning of life uncovered

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(06-18-2015, 02:04 AM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: How can knowledge be the after effect of something which hasn't happened?

God's knowledge and man's knowledge are two different things. But each are the effect of a primary action. You don't know what's going to happen tomorrow so there are still any number of things you can do that will cause the effect. God's knowledge of the effect has done nothing to influence your actions, it's only the after effect of what you chose along the way. His knowledge is capable of knowing what will happen before it does; yours and mine aren't.

Quote:If God knows I will be condemned to Hell before I am born is it possible for me to accept Jesus as my Savior so I will ascend to Heaven?  No. I can't make the right choices to change my fate if God already knows I'm going to Hell. If I were able to make the right choices then God would know know I'm going to Heaven. If I can't make the correct choices to change my fate then I don't have free will.

No, but you're talking about something that has "already happened" (in God's omniscience). In the moment you're reading this now, your fate, while unknown to you, is still dependent on your actions. Again, you're basing what you can and can't do after it's already over. What has caused it to already be over, in God's knowledge, is the choices you make from the beginning to the end.

You didn't make the choices after you were "condemned to hell". You made them throughout your life and the after effect (knowledge) didn't determine them, it was just a result of them.