Europe and Muslim Immigrants

[Benton]

(03-16-2016, 06:53 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Basically, the majority of households across the country benefitting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal. States where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62%), Texas, California and New York with 61% each and Pennsylvania(59%).
 

That's not true. I went to the study and I honestly have no idea where they get their info from. I see what the claim, but it goes against everything I've seen, from US Census data to state data for most states to common sense. You will have people who fall through the cracks, but there's no way the majority of people on welfare are immigrants.

From Huff Po:


But... what about the anchor babies!?

Well, maybe. Lots of the people receiving SNAP benefits are kids. But that includes white kids, black kids, other kids.



Well, still. That's just lazy people. Or...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html

Well. Crap. Maybe food stamps are mostly white and black people with kids who were working and — for whatever reason — aren't  year or two later.

Quote:The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined. They include Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for the disabled, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), a nutritional program known as Women, Infants and Children (WIC), food stamps, free/reduced school lunch, public housing and health insurance for the poor (Medicaid). Food assistance and Medicaid are the programs most commonly used by illegal immigrants, mainly on behalf of their American-born children who get automatic citizenship.


On the other hand, legal immigrant households take advantage of every available welfare program, according to the study, which attributes it to low education level and resulting low income. The highest rate of welfare recipients come from the Dominican Republic (82 %), Mexico and Guatemala (75%) and Ecuador (70%), according to the report, which says welfare use tends to be high for both new arrivals and established residents.


Link to original study:
http://cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011
Companion report to original study
http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Legal-Illegal-Immigrant-Households




McNees contacted Judicial Watch after reading documents obtained by JW from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) detailing how the agency is working with the Mexican government to promote participation by illegal aliens in the U.S. food stamp program. The effort includes a Spanish-language flyer provided to the Mexican Embassy by the USDA ensuring that Mexicans in the U.S. don’t need to declare their immigration status to get financial assistance from Uncle Sam.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/04/case-worker-illegal-aliens-got-food-stamps-by-the-vanload/


The Financial Costs of Illegal Immigration

The average illegal immigrant is 34 years old. If he receives amnesty, he will receive government benefits for 50 years. Some amnesty proposals suggest restricting benefit access for the first 13 years after amnesty, but that limit would have little impact on long-term costs. Over the course of a lifetime, 11.5 million illegal immigrants granted amnesty would receive $9.4 trillion in government benefits after paying just $3.1 trillion in taxes.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=25056

Report: More than half of immigrants on welfare
7:21 p.m. EDT September 2, 2015

About 51% of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of welfare benefit, including Medicaid, food stamps, school lunches and housing assistance, compared to 30% for native-led households, according to the report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that advocates for lower levels of immigration.

Those numbers increase for households with children, with 76% of immigrant-led households receiving welfare, compared to 52% for the native-born.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/01/immigrant-welfare-use-report/71517072/

Much of this is wildly distorted facts.

Average age is skewed because of the high number of children involved. But even if you are talking about 15 million people all 36 years of age, it works off the assumption they'll get 50 years of benefits without paying anything into it. That's not any different than vilifying everyone 36 years of age because there's the potential they'll draw 50 years of benefits (thank God I just turned 37 last week, I'm not like the rest of you moochers) without having paid anything into it. And, as has been shown in other links, illegals are paying in more taxes than they receive in benefits (directly anyway).

51%? Even if that is right... so? Around 25% of all U.S. households receive some kind of welfare (food stamps, SSI, etc). But Hispanics (which aren't all from Mexico) only make up 1/6th of the population (roughly). And that 25% goes up considerably once you start lumping in tax breaks (also known as welfare for businesses and wealthy individuals).


What's kind of funny (in a sad way) was this is nearly the exact same misinformation circulating 10-15 years ago to show why black people were bad (even though, likewise, back then it was largely white people with kids using social aide programs, but people would jump up and down about the proportions and possibilities).