U.S. Political Parties

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(03-19-2016, 10:42 AM)fredtoast Wrote: First of all I find it funny that you did not ask about health care.

I did mean to mention Romneycare. It was passed without Republican support, so that might be the one thing that is different. But it's not like the next Republican president is actually going to repeal it. Mostly like there will be minor changes and claim it's a "massive overall" or "repeal and replaced" or some other strong political buzzword.

(03-19-2016, 10:42 AM)fredtoast Wrote: Foreign Policy......We have not invaded two countries with troops under Obama.  You may not care about US troops dying, but many people do.  There has been a BIG difference in our foreign policy.

Immigration....The fact that there is gridlock in congress does not mean bot parties are the same.  Obama has issued executive orders on immigration.

Taxes.....2013 budget deal rescinded some of the Bush tax cuts.

Basically you either don't know what is going on, or you completely ignore anything that does not fit your agenda.

Saying that both parties are the same because they both spend money is like saying there is no difference between a radio and a hamburger because they both cost money.

There are ground troops on the ground in every country we continue to bomb. They are just called advisors and aren't carrying out offense themselves missions, save for a rescue or something. Of course, the work they do is used for targeting people and places to bomb, and bombing surely is an offensive mission. Who was the last president to not bomb Iraq? It's been a while. Calling it "limited airstrikes with no boots on the ground" is how Obama has been circumventing a) having to get a declaration of war from Congress 2) admitting that bombing countries across the ME is an act of war. No one says Pearl Harbour was a limited airstrike with no boots on the ground. It was an offensive attack and an act of war. Maybe Trump or Hillary will finally pull the military from the Middle East or at least stop dropping bombs.

Obama and Bush both deported illegal immigrants, but have no meaningful changes occurred. Neither tried to build a wall (not necessarily literally construct a wall, but fix the border in general) and neither really cared for widespread amnesty. If obama wanted amnesty, he would have passed it in his first 2 years with a super majority. Instead he waited 6-7 years to pass executive orders that weren't going to hold up in court, at least not in their entirety. Yeah, he really wanted change by ignoring it when he had the power to actually make the changes. Same thing applies to guns and the drug war. He talks about it now, but has done next to nothing and ignored it completely when he could have gotten anything he wanted in his first 2 years.

He extended the Bush tax cuts his first term, and ended them in his second term. What did that really change? Nothing.


Your radio example doesn't apply to anything I've said. I said politicians spend money to get themselves elected, not because they are vastly different people.

My agenda is to discover a politician who isn't a corporatist necon that just says whatever to get votes from their target demographic. I'll keep looking. The demographics politicians target are wildly different, so hurray for us, we found something different between politicians afterall.