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laws holding gun owners responsible for letting child get loaded gun?
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(04-05-2016, 03:11 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I love it when you talk dirty.  Let's break it down as best we can shall we?  A gallup poll conducted in 2011 showed that around 47% of adults in the US owned a firearm.  I think it's safe to say that is a fair number and it may even be higher now, but I'll even compromise and go with 45%.  The US census shows that 76% of the US population of around 320 million are legally adults, or 243,200,000 people.  45% of that number is 109,440,000.  I'll be even kinder to your argument and round it down to an even 100,000,000.  The uniformed crime  report shows the following:



Let's be even more generous to you and round that up to 1.5 million to allow for "unreported" crimes.  Note that not all violent crimes involved a firearm so let's, again generously IMO, round that number down to one million firearms related crimes per year.  Now let's be really generous to you and say that 500,000 criminals committed those one million crimes, which we both know isn't close to true, that means that gun related crime was committed by .5% of gun owners.  So you're right, my number was bullshit.  The actual number is 99.5% of gun owners.  Let's even be insanely generous to you and say all one million gun related crimes were committed by separate individuals, which isn't even close to true.  That would mean that all of those gun related crimes were committed by 99% of gun owners.  Even in this perfect fantasy land for you it shows that the overwhelmingly vast majority of gun owners commit no gun related crimes at all.  Given the fact that the vast majority of crime is committed by a small percentage of the criminal population I think my 99.99% number is very close to dead one.  Feel free to form a cogent argument otherwise if you'd like.

Total fail.

You have just strung together a lot of wild guesses and faulty stats (the Gallup poll you linked showed that only 34% of adults own a weapon not 47%) to show that only .5% of gun owners commit a crime IN ANY GIVEN SINGLE YEAR.  The problem is that the exact same people do not commit crimes every single year.

So if you assume that most of these gun owners owned their guns for 10 years then you have to multiply the number of crimes by 10.  Since you were originally wrong by 500% that would mean over just 10 years you would be wrong by 5,000%.

But that is just all wild speculation.  Instead of just making up stuff like you have done I will try to find the actual numbers.





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RE: laws holding gun owners responsible for letting child get loaded gun? - fredtoast - 04-05-2016, 03:54 PM

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