04-08-2016, 05:25 PM
(04-07-2016, 04:21 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The Redskins had the #5 defense in the league the year Marvin was there
Everyone that followed Marvin benefittied from the defense that MARVIN built. That defense was ranked 24th the year before he arrived and 30th in his first year. Marvin was the one that built it into one of the greatest in history.
Zimmer took over a team that was one year removed from making the playoffs and had a losing season.
Gruden took over a team that was one year removed from making the playoffs and only won 4 games.
Marvin took over a team that had not had a winning record in 13 years and had a .500 season.
- They were #5 in yards, Fred. You should get a temporary ban for all of the trolling you do. You took a specific sliver of a statistical category and are putting it out there as an overall rating. Why don't you just list what they ranked in turn overs and say that's their overall defensive ranking, too? Or sacks? Does this work in the backwoods hills you allegedly practice law in?
The Redskins were #21 in points allowed meaning they ranked 21st in overall/total defense. As Marvin, Guenther, and Zimmer have all pointed out in previous interviews: Points allowed is the king stat on D. There is no close 2nd. To bring up yards is just trolling and being contrarian. Strangly, Fred, in 2001 the Redskins D was ranked 13th overall http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2001/opp.htm and then Marvin showed up for one season in 2002 and they dropped like a rock down to 21st http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2002/opp.htm
- Marvin Lewis was given incredible talent in Baltimore through FA signings and the draft and that talent kept the Ravens D strong for over a decade regardless of who was coordinating it. You actually think that because of Marvin Lewis being there in 2001, for example, that that influenced the defense in 2011? You've become delusional and, IMO, need a break from the forum for a while. They quit running the conventional 4-3 that Marvin ran many YEARS AGO and went to a hybrid and then a 3-4. It wasn't even the same scheme. Here, since you like to read so much (apparently about anything BUT the football topics you like to babble about) enjoy the 2nd paragraph http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2010/4/9/1412079/football-101-the-ravens-hybrid
- Other people already swatted away the fart cloud of nonsense you spewed out championing how good the Redskins and Vikings were before Gruden & Zimmer. SO good they fired their coaches.
- Marvin Lewis hasn't been battling the demons of the 90's now for well over a decade, Fred. That garbage left the Bengals organization 14 years ago. And, after Carson publicly took a dump all over him and Mike Brown, the organization finally changed for the better. That was more of a function of Carson's public shaming for their failures more than it is a product of an average coach achieving a shade above mediocrity year after year. We all appreciated him taking a team loaded with talent to the brink of "Gasp" almost winning a single playoff game, but he ran out of goodwill from that years ago.
- Honestly, you turn almost every thread on these forums into a virtual troll fest of a shit sandwich - all centered around you. I hope a mod takes a half hour to go through oh, I don't know, the current 2 pages of topics to take a look at how they all end up centered around you basically trolling and taking a virtual dump in them and at least considers a temporary vacation for you so you can focus on your personal life and get your head straight.
