Bengals Ownership Growing Impatient with Marvin Lewis

[Shake n Blake]

(04-08-2016, 02:06 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: No, I agree with what you and OB say. I just don't really think 'QB controversy' accurately describes the situation to what Jay walked into. I guess it's just my contrarian nature. 

I give Marvin credit for turning this franchise around regardless of who he had on the roster. I can't say things woulda been different if any other coach were hired. I do know how things were right up to the point Marvin first stepped onto the field. For that, I don't see how he doesn't deserve credit. So for me, that counts as 1 build.

 Around 08/09 I give him credit for a rebuild because this team was falling apart. I realize many may not agree. But at least agree that despite all the chaos in those days, Marvin managed to hold it together and even squeeze into the playoffs a coupla times. Yeah there was still talent on the roster but looking back at it its a wonder the wheels didn't fall completely off, like they eventually did. 

 I don't know, I just think those few years were crazy and he managed to keep it together, so That's 2.  

Of course he gets credit for This 3rd and our current era. 

Obviously I don't totally agree, but I respect your opinion. I think this last reboot is the one he deserves the most credit for, but even then, I think a lot of people give too much credit to Marv and not enough to those around him. Tobin deserves a lot of praise for finding gems like Atkins, MJ, Iloka and Marv Jones in later rounds. 

And as I pointed out, I think the Bengals started drafting better before Marv arrived. I just don't think the turnaround should be 100% credited to Marv. Think about this: we hired Duke Tobin in 1999. By 2003, we really started seeing the benefits of his first few drafts.