04-11-2016, 06:56 PM
(04-11-2016, 03:24 PM)fredtoast Wrote: 1. I meant '02. I'll correct that.
2. Plenty of people claim Marvin should get no credit for turning the team around because he inherited so much talent.
I'm probably one of the people you're referring to, and I never said Marvin deserves no credit. I also never said it was "so much all-pro talent".
I simply said that Marv probably gets too much credit, Tobin doesn't get enough, and the core of the '05 team was inherited by Marv.
Palmer, Rudi, Chad, TJ, Willie, Levi, Braham, Justin Smith, Simmons, etc were all going to be Bengals whether we hired Marv or not.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
