04-12-2016, 02:03 PM
(04-12-2016, 01:28 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Or maybe they know exactly how hard it is to have the success that Marvin has enjoyed over the last 5 seasons and don't see a better option to sign instead of him.
It is to roll the dice on an unknown HC when your team sucks, but when you are as close to success as the Bengal are it is much harder to throw that away on a random chance of getting better.
Some people around here act like they would be "happier" if we tried and failed, but they are liars. If we fire Marvin and then miss the playoffs they will be bitching and moaning just like always. Not a single one will be saying "I am so happy we missed the playoffs because at least we tried to get better."
Again, in the case of Marvin, 'success' depends on how it's perceived. On one hand, Marvin has had a tremendous amount of regular season success and deserves a ton of credit for that. On the other hand, he is the NFL record holder in playoff ineptness, and deserves to be held accountable for that.
So, how do you square those polar opposites in terms of success? It has to come down to, IMO, the Bengals valuing regular season success more that postseason outcomes...which explains why Marvin is still here and continually being given extensions.
I know some people on here like to compare the Bengals 'success' against teams that haven't accomplished anything..."at least we're not the Browns", "20 teams a year don't make the playoffs", "what has this team or that team done recently", etc. What I don't see a lot of from those same people is comparing the Bengals to the best in the league...which is really all we should be doing at this point, if we're looking for a true evaluation of where we are.
Over the last 5 years in which Marvin has had a lot of regular season success, how do his end results match against the best teams during that same 5 year period (regular and postseason)? The Broncos have appeared in 2 SB's, winning one. The Seahawks have appeared in 2 SB's, winning one. The Patriots have appeared in 2 SB's, winning one.
How does Marvin's 'success' stack up to the very best? An NFL record 5 consecutive one and done's with only the last one being truly competitive. While those other 3 teams were winning playoff games and making it to a couple SB's...Marvin and the Bengals are wasting precious opportunities.
