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(05-07-2016, 03:30 PM)Camdaddy08 Wrote: Okay I will bite. How did we lose Iloka? Nelson yes. Iloka is still very much part of the team.

Meant to say Nelson. Thanks for realizing my error.

(05-07-2016, 06:16 PM)leonardfan40 Wrote: Ramsey is pretty raw too and far from a sure thing. Bosa may not have the highest ceiling of the guys mentioned but his floor and bust potential are much safer than the other 2 you mentioned. And Bosa is great against the run and very good against the pass. Dude was being double and triple teamed all last year like jj watt is now and was still making plays. He has a good variety of pass rush moves too

He's raw in what sense? He played in 41 games. It's not like he's new to playing defensive back. Sure, he could be suited at either safety or cornerback, but he's not raw at all. He's a very good talent and has shown it throughout time. Ramsey allowed only 20 receptions on 50 targets. Allowed only 2 passes completed 20+ yards. He was thrown at 13 times down the field. Heck, one could say he had a better sophmore year than a junior year in terms of big plays. Ramsey isn't raw. There's just questions as to whether he'd be a better fit at safety or cornerback, not if he can actually play.

Bosa was MUCH better at the rush than the pass. And don't compare Bosa to JJ Watt out of the gate. Players get double teamed all the time. Whether it's JJ Watt or James Harrison. While he does have pass rush moves, he's also a major penalty player. Had 6 offsides penalties this season, 15 penalties altogether the last 2 years. He's a much better strength player rather than a speed. He can beat you by coming at you, not by going around you. He's so much better against the run than against the pass. Now, does he have potential? Absolutely.

But Ramsey has a much higher ceiling than Bosa. I like Ramsey more.