05-11-2016, 10:45 PM
(05-11-2016, 10:49 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: A pretty good read. Here are some selected sections:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/05/bernie_sanders_electability_argument_is_still_a_myth.html
It goes on to list some easy ammunition for a conservative attack:
-relationship with the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party that called with solidarity with Iran during the Iran hostage crisis
-Sanders’ 1985 trip to Nicaragua, where he reportedly joined a Sandinista rally with a crowd chanting, “Here, there, everywhere/ The Yankee will die.”
-Sanders’ youthful sex writings
-Sanders opposition to the Amber Alert legislation
-Sanders opposition to criminalizing computer generated kiddie porn
-Support for a public takeover of TV
-Opposition to private charity because it's the government's job
-Belief that sexual repression causes cancer
-Jane Sanders possibly trying to defraud the Catholic Church and getting a golden parachute when fired from that university job
-Opposition to public schools and support of taking kids out of "establishment" schools
It's an argument you see a lot by his supporters. He does better in polls. It's true, but that's because he has not been attacked the same way that all the other candidates have been.
Outstanding post. He would get absolutely gutted by Trump, the deluge of attacks would absolutely bury him. In addition I see Bernie's "free college for all" as the Dem version of "everyone get's $300 if I'm elected". It's a ham fisted bribe pure and simple.
(05-11-2016, 03:53 PM)Griever Wrote: let me just point out that there are differences between child porn and lolicon and shotacon
True. Additionally it was during W's administration that this interpretation was made. Hardly a hotbed of left wing thinking.
(05-11-2016, 10:03 PM)xxlt Wrote: So Bernie hasn't been attacked, and that makes him unelectable?
Trump calls a woman a pig, calls anyone a loser, calls Cruz a liar... pretty much opens his trap to burp and he gets splashed all over the internet, the TV and radio, and print media.
Hillary awakens and faces another day with a vajayjay, and she gets free internet, TV and radio, and print media. She doesn't get as much as much as Dumb Donald, we will call it 10x10 coverage in a 12x12 room. Dumb Donald gets 144 square feet of free media in a 144 square foot room and Hillary only gets 100 square feet in the same room.
Contrast the round the clock free coverage (tons for DD and almost as much for H-vjj-C) with the media ignoring Sanders. Even when he wins primaries (as he has in 19 states now) or makes a strong showing he is ignored. The press wrote more about Cruz, Bush, Rubio, and the rest of clown car - and they all combined haven't got a fraction of the votes Sanders has.
But the reason he is unelectable since he hasn't been attacked? If there is a reason he can't be elected it is because the media has done everything to make sure his name is never mentioned, and if it is it is in the context of how he can't be elected - how he can't even win nomination over Hillary.
When the Republicans not named DD got 1,000x the free media coverage Bernie got and DD got 10,000 times the free media and Hillary 5,000 times the free media and he is still in the race it can only mean one thing. He is highly electable due to a populist appeal that reaches people w/o the media thrusting him in people's faces around the clock.
You're missing the point completely. No one has given Bernie much of a chance to win, therefore the digging and mudslinging has not begun in anything like the levels it would occur at in the GE. Both Trump and Hillary have been as high profile as it gets, there's probably something new to discover but not nearly to the degree that there is with Bernie. As for Trump's boorish behavior, it's the Trump version of "Only Nixon could go to China". Don't try and compare him in this way to pretty much any candidate ever because you're wasting your time. Also, you use of a childish nickname shows you in a rather poor light and betrays a lack of ability to analyze this situation rationally.
