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(06-27-2015, 05:37 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Wow you really think Wilson is a top 6-8 QB in the league? That's hilarious. Also how is my argument flawed? If you want to make a point you have to show proof, and I don't believe there is anything that points to Wilson being that good. Wilson is litterally the most over hyped QB in the league. All he has done has been a game manager letting the defense, special teams, and run game carry him. He very rarely shows production on the field, and if he wasn't on a team like the Seahawks he would be a more mobile Alex Smith (who isn't very good either).

Me and many others. Your assertions obviously don't take 2014 into consideration. It's hard to overhype a QB who produces when it matters, doesn't turn the ball over much, is a consummate leader, and has shown that he can carry his team. Wilson isn't in the same class as Rodgers/Brady/Manning, but he's solidly in the next tier. I posted the career stats for Wilson and Dalton. Obviously you didn't look at Wilson's because it shoots holes through your opinions like 00 buckshot.

Here they are again:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WilsRu00.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaltAn00.htm

Wilson destroys Dalton in pretty much all meaningful categories. Better TD:TO percentage, better passer rating, higher yards/attempt, better advanced passing stats, better postseason passing stats, etc..... The only reason Andy has more raw passing yards is a function of the Gruden pass-centric offense. Last year Wilson threw for more yards than Dalton, with more TD's, far less turnovers, a passer rating 20+ points higher, higher YPA, and far better advanced stats. All throwing to Jermaine Kearse, Paul Richardson, Doug Baldwin, and Luke Wilson. Don't try to use the Andy's receivers were subpar argument. Even with injuries the Bengals had a better group of receivers than Seattle.
One final nugget:

Remember that list awhile back that showed Dalton was at the bottom all time for postseason passers? Wilson was in the 85th percentile or better.
Through 2023

Mike Brown’s Owner/GM record: 32 years  223-303-4  .419 winning pct.
Playoff Record:  5-9, .357 winning pct.  
Zac Taylor coaching record, reg. season:  37-44-1. .455 winning pct.
Playoff Record: 5-2, .714 winning pct.
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2016 options? - Lawless_1 - 06-26-2015, 10:52 PM
RE: 2016 options? - fredtoast - 06-26-2015, 11:06 PM
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RE: 2016 options? - orangeandblackblood - 06-26-2015, 11:30 PM
RE: 2016 options? - t3r3e3 - 06-27-2015, 12:45 AM
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RE: 2016 options? - Lawless_1 - 06-27-2015, 04:58 PM
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RE: 2016 options? - t3r3e3 - 06-27-2015, 04:37 PM
RE: 2016 options? - Brownshoe - 06-27-2015, 04:48 PM
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