Game of Thrones

[Bengalzona]

(06-29-2016, 12:56 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: Littlefinger basically said he laid his cards out for them realm to see and had basically in the eyes of the rest of the realm declared for house stark...  his at a point of no going back he made his move in helping sansa.

I don't think he liked jon being named king of the north but he could possibly use that to help himself as littlefinger doesn't need to own the north if he has strong ally there.     Although he technically probly controls the north vale and riverlands by title.

So he wants the iron throne  the northerns don't.    But they do own him a lot for helping retake winterfel so he could try to use that to gain assistance elsewhere.    Sansa who spent time with the queen and littlefinger I think could outmaneuver both  but she should probly take up with littlefinger.  as the one thing that littlefinger has proven he has never lied about is his love for her and her mother.

Jon being declared "King of the North!" can create problems for Littlefinger's plan, and Littlefinger is well aware of that. It's true that Jon and the Northerners could care little about the Iron Throne. But Littlefinger's problem is that Dany is coming to seize the Iron Throne. She is looking at possible diplomatic marriages and can solidify her hold on the throne and unite the kingdom with a marriage to Jon. She may not be aware of the political situation in the North yet, but she will be when she arrives. For Jon's part, he is concerned about "what lies beyond the wall". He needs Dany's army and dragons to defeat that. For both Dany and Jon, this marriage would be a win-win situation politically (and they may even like each other, hook-up and create little Targ dragon babies to rule the world). 

When Littlefinger disclosed his plan to Sansa, it had nothing to do with any warm fuzzy feelings for her. He knows that she is aware of what kind of person he is and will never have true feelings for him. And being rejected by a woman has never stopped him from pursuing his power grab in the past. In fact, it has fueled it. She realized that, of course, it was a power-sharing offer. He wanted her to petition to the Northern Lords to become Queen of the North in order to keep Jon from being made King of the North. If she was Queen of the North, he could marry her and unite a large part of the kingdom. That didn't happen. As for alliances, Littlefinger would never rely or trust on an alliance and people's 'good natures'. Alliance indicates some form of equality. He wants indebted vassals who do what he says.

Sansa is in imminent danger because Littlefinger disclosed his end game to her in his bid to recruit her. Jon is in imminent danger because he stands in Littlefinger's way. Of course Jon knows nothing of this because Sansa never tells people stuff at opportune times, like "Hey, maybe you should wait to charge headlong into Ramsey's forces and destroy all of your cavalry and most of your forces because there is another army on its way". That would have been a little helpful, eh. Also, Jon doesn't know anything about this because... Jon Snow "knows nothing".   

Littlefinger will make some kind of move early next season, and it will be nasty.