Terror in Turkey

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(06-30-2016, 03:14 PM)Benton Wrote: ...from Russia. You're suggesting restricting immigration from the Middle East.

I'm not sure what I'm missing there.

If we're in a conflict with people from the geographic region of England — and had attacks on us from people living in nearby Ireland —  would we impose immigration restrictions on people from Australia?



I guess what I'm not understanding is, we're already doing a good job of stopping it from coming here. What we're struggling with is stopping it from starting here. If most of the major attacks have been from U.S. citizens, why are some people saying the problem is immigration? If one 1-of-12 attacks is by an immigrant, is our best use of resources fixing 1 attack, or 11?




We made that choice. The Patriot Act, and all that followed. I disagreed with it then, and I disagree with similar ideas that to keep people safe, you have to assume everyone is out to overthrow America.

As far as my plan, it's the same as I've advocated for years. The military upper management has been in place since Bush, and many of the more influential guys since Reagan. They need to be replaced. There's too much abuse. It's shrunk our head count every year (just about) since WWII while increasing how much we spend. It's basically a well armed logistics service that benefits a handful of companies.

Once we've got a competent military command, they'll start utilizing the data from our intelligence community. Which is usually pretty accurate, but by the time it goes through the chain of command and across a few desks, it gets tweaked to support what the current direction of CentComm wants,  which is determined by military command (basically, you've got military leadership telling itself what to tell itself).

On top of that, just expanding our intelligence network, as opposed to expanding the bureaucracy that slows it down. That way when we do have a suspect, they can track down whether it's legitimate or not, instead of a name setting in a file for years while it waits for a followup. 

[identity of Terrorist]The pro-government Yeni Safak newspaper said the Russian bomber was from Dagestan, which borders Chechnya, where Moscow has led two wars against separatists and religious militants since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.

Turkey's Hurriyet newspaper named him as Osman Vadinov and said he had come from Raqqa, the heart of Islamic State-controlled territory in Syria. The Russian interior ministry said it was checking information about Vadinov.[/quote]


Like I said above, if you don't think increased immigration from the ME is a problem; that's your choice. I'm just providing an opinion from someone who has seen behind the curtain. 



What is wrong with restricting immigration from the ME while those in question here are fully vetted? The same folks that say we can't help everyone are the same that say we can let in everyone. Kinda conflicts.