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DNC emails
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(07-22-2016, 08:31 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Yeah, this was my problem with Sanders. I would've had much more respect for him had he run as an independent or a 3rd party type. He wasn't, and isn't, a Democrat.

He has caucused with the Dems his whole career as an independent. It is a minor miracle he was elected to senate as an independent. Running for president as an independent or third party candidate is pretty much signing your own death warrant of your political life (see the thread about debate rules, see lack of media coverage of third parties, see the hx of the U.S.) He would have fit squarely within the democratic party in the 1930's on many issue, and in the 1960's and 1970's as well. The Republican party (allegedly "center right") is now so far right that it would not accept Nixon or Reagan or Bush I as a candidate. The Democratic party (allegedly "center left") is now so far right that it would run Nixon, Reagan, or Bush I. (This is why Sanders stopped affiliating completely as a Dem and ran as an independent but still caucused with Dems.) In fact Obama was in many ways the second coming of Ronald Reagan (which explains the contempt so many have for him - the whole Black Jesus thing makes them puke in their mouths since they like their nation's saviors old and white and male). Bernie has done a great job of dragging the Dem party (kicking and screaming) back toward the center. His supporters, standing on the left, are numerous and continue to call the party back across the middle and to the left. If Hillary heeds the call she wins in a landslide. If she runs like Gore did (not quite as far right as Bush) it is conceivable she loses to Trump or wins a close race hence being tagged with the "she does not have  a mandate" label and governing like Obama (stalemates) or worse capitulating to the Republican nuts like Ryan and McConnell.
JOHN ROBERTS: From time to time in the years to come, I hope you will be treated unfairly so that you will come to know the value of justice... I wish you bad luck, again, from time to time so that you will be conscious of the role of chance in life and understand that your success is not completely deserved and that the failure of others is not completely deserved either.





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DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-22-2016, 06:26 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-22-2016, 06:52 PM
RE: DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-22-2016, 07:47 PM
RE: DNC emails - Benton - 07-22-2016, 07:29 PM
RE: DNC emails - BmorePat87 - 07-22-2016, 07:59 PM
RE: DNC emails - Millhouse - 07-22-2016, 08:24 PM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-22-2016, 08:31 PM
RE: DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-22-2016, 08:37 PM
RE: DNC emails - wildcats forever - 07-23-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-23-2016, 07:02 PM
RE: DNC emails - treee - 07-23-2016, 09:22 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-23-2016, 09:42 PM
RE: DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-23-2016, 09:50 PM
RE: DNC emails - treee - 07-23-2016, 11:29 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-24-2016, 05:25 AM
RE: DNC emails - treee - 07-24-2016, 06:01 AM
RE: DNC emails - treee - 07-23-2016, 11:27 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-24-2016, 05:23 AM
RE: DNC emails - treee - 07-24-2016, 06:08 AM
RE: DNC emails - NATI BENGALS - 07-24-2016, 12:04 PM
RE: DNC emails - McC - 07-24-2016, 06:44 AM
RE: DNC emails - THE Bigzoman - 07-25-2016, 07:39 PM
RE: DNC emails - BmorePat87 - 07-24-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: DNC emails - wildcats forever - 07-22-2016, 08:51 PM
RE: DNC emails - fredtoast - 07-23-2016, 10:26 AM
RE: DNC emails - xxlt - 07-24-2016, 09:54 AM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-22-2016, 08:48 PM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-22-2016, 09:13 PM
RE: DNC emails - wildcats forever - 07-22-2016, 09:49 PM
RE: DNC emails - Rotobeast - 07-22-2016, 10:59 PM
RE: DNC emails - Millhouse - 07-23-2016, 12:19 AM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-23-2016, 12:27 AM
RE: DNC emails - Rotobeast - 07-23-2016, 06:35 AM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-23-2016, 08:10 AM
RE: DNC emails - Rotobeast - 07-23-2016, 10:17 AM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-24-2016, 10:04 AM
RE: DNC emails - McC - 07-24-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: DNC emails - BmorePat87 - 07-24-2016, 01:12 PM
RE: DNC emails - McC - 07-24-2016, 01:21 PM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-24-2016, 10:08 AM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-24-2016, 11:22 AM
RE: DNC emails - fredtoast - 07-24-2016, 11:29 AM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-24-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: DNC emails - xxlt - 07-25-2016, 10:04 AM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-25-2016, 10:08 AM
RE: DNC emails - Goalpost - 07-24-2016, 01:09 PM
RE: DNC emails - Rotobeast - 07-24-2016, 01:26 PM
RE: DNC emails - CKwi88 - 07-24-2016, 03:31 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-24-2016, 03:38 PM
RE: DNC emails - wildcats forever - 07-24-2016, 03:59 PM
RE: DNC emails - treee - 07-24-2016, 04:57 PM
RE: DNC emails - wildcats forever - 07-24-2016, 05:21 PM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-24-2016, 08:29 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-24-2016, 09:28 PM
RE: DNC emails - NATI BENGALS - 07-24-2016, 11:56 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-25-2016, 02:11 AM
RE: DNC emails - Nebuchadnezzar - 07-25-2016, 03:23 AM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-25-2016, 04:25 AM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-25-2016, 08:58 AM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-25-2016, 01:13 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-25-2016, 08:57 AM
RE: DNC emails - NATI BENGALS - 07-25-2016, 01:24 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-25-2016, 01:29 PM
RE: DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-25-2016, 07:44 PM
RE: DNC emails - THE Bigzoman - 07-25-2016, 07:50 PM
RE: DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-25-2016, 07:56 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-25-2016, 08:46 PM
RE: DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-25-2016, 08:49 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-25-2016, 08:57 PM
RE: DNC emails - Benton - 07-25-2016, 07:54 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-25-2016, 09:04 PM
RE: DNC emails - Benton - 07-26-2016, 12:33 AM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-26-2016, 01:07 AM
RE: DNC emails - McC - 07-26-2016, 02:57 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-26-2016, 05:21 PM
RE: DNC emails - Benton - 07-26-2016, 07:27 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-26-2016, 09:04 PM
RE: DNC emails - Benton - 07-26-2016, 10:17 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-26-2016, 11:25 PM
RE: DNC emails - Benton - 07-27-2016, 12:07 AM
RE: DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-25-2016, 07:47 PM
RE: DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-25-2016, 07:50 PM
RE: DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-25-2016, 07:52 PM
RE: DNC emails - SunsetBengal - 07-25-2016, 07:54 PM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-25-2016, 09:18 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-25-2016, 09:21 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-25-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-25-2016, 09:46 PM
RE: DNC emails - JustWinBaby - 07-25-2016, 09:53 PM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-25-2016, 09:29 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-25-2016, 09:31 PM
RE: DNC emails - fredtoast - 08-01-2016, 12:14 AM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 08-01-2016, 01:15 AM
RE: DNC emails - fredtoast - 08-01-2016, 01:47 AM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 08-01-2016, 09:00 AM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-25-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-25-2016, 09:44 PM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-25-2016, 10:11 PM
RE: DNC emails - Rotobeast - 07-25-2016, 11:33 PM
RE: DNC emails - StoneTheCrow - 07-25-2016, 11:41 PM
RE: DNC emails - Rotobeast - 07-26-2016, 01:01 PM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-26-2016, 03:26 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-26-2016, 03:30 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-26-2016, 10:21 PM
RE: DNC emails - Belsnickel - 07-26-2016, 10:27 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-26-2016, 10:37 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-26-2016, 10:49 PM
RE: DNC emails - McC - 07-26-2016, 11:25 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-26-2016, 11:29 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-27-2016, 08:55 AM
RE: DNC emails - McC - 07-27-2016, 06:03 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-27-2016, 06:10 PM
RE: DNC emails - Rotobeast - 07-27-2016, 12:06 AM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-27-2016, 05:53 PM
RE: DNC emails - McC - 07-27-2016, 06:00 PM
RE: DNC emails - fredtoast - 07-31-2016, 05:11 PM
RE: DNC emails - McC - 07-31-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: DNC emails - fredtoast - 07-31-2016, 05:52 PM
RE: DNC emails - McC - 07-31-2016, 10:06 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 07-31-2016, 05:52 PM
RE: DNC emails - McC - 07-31-2016, 10:08 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 07-31-2016, 04:54 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 08-10-2016, 07:59 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 08-10-2016, 08:16 PM
RE: DNC emails - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-10-2016, 08:29 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 08-10-2016, 08:49 PM
RE: DNC emails - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-10-2016, 08:52 PM
RE: DNC emails - bfine32 - 08-10-2016, 09:20 PM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 08-10-2016, 10:09 PM
RE: DNC emails - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-10-2016, 11:33 PM
RE: DNC emails - wildcats forever - 08-11-2016, 12:36 AM
RE: DNC emails - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-11-2016, 01:08 AM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 08-11-2016, 09:25 AM
RE: DNC emails - fredtoast - 08-16-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: DNC emails - michaelsean - 08-11-2016, 09:36 AM
RE: DNC emails - GMDino - 08-11-2016, 10:07 AM

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