Freddy Gray Payout

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(08-04-2016, 10:50 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I'll do you the courtesy of actually responding like me and not Fred.  Even as a troll posing like him was disturbing.


I find it odd that you have "running from police" and "made eye contact" in quotes as neither of those facts are in dispute.  Additionally, the knife Gray had on him was, in fact, illegal hence your quotes are again unnecessary.  As for what happened to Gray there is evidence that he could have fallen after standing up on his own.  With your hands cuffed behind your back your head is very likely to be the first thing that impacts an object during your fall.  Do I know for sure that's what happened, no.  Do I know that the prosecutions theory of a "rough ride" (correct use of quotes alert) had innumerable holes in it, had no substantive evidence to support it and utterly failed in court?  Sure do.


Again, you and your buddy scoff and the notion of establishing contact with a person due to their response after making eye contact with you.  I've tried explaining this, it seems to go over you head, but I'll try again.  That kind of thing is exactly how proactive policing works.  Reading the physical and verbal cues of the person you are interacting with, or about to interact with, is a huge tool for an experienced officer.  I was going to make a thread about this last night but got way to into hoisting Fred with his own tactics.  Yesterday, speaking with a family it became very obvious to me within a short time period that something was wrong.  A few more lines of dialogue and I was convinced something was wrong.  A few more questions and the truth comes out, mom's been physically abusing the kids.  Get DCFS involved, turns out mom's been abusing the oldest, now fifteen, since he was five.  All because mom "made eye contact" or in this case exhibited odd behavior and responses to my questions.  That's pro-active, that's really the main focus of a good LEO.  This family was, at first, only peripherally involved in what I was currently doing.  I can't guarantee that the rest of those kid's lives will be easy, but they don't have to live in constant fear of physical abuse now.


All because of my mystical LEO psychic abilities.

Well at least now I know not to make eye contact with the police lest they use their proactive policing to follow me if I leave the scene.    

I put those phrases in quotations because of the story I linked:

Quote:"Police have said Gray made eye contact with two officers on routine bicycle patrol and ran.

Roary did not have a clear explanation for why they ran, but said they didn't see any officers. "We just took off," he said in a phone interview from jail."

Two versions.  One from the police said they made eye contact and ran.  One said they didn't see the police and ran.

As for the knife:  it may have been illegal...it may not have been.  So, again, in quotes.


Another source that still says "they believed to have been illegal"  

Heck 2 days ago there was an article still arguing it.

Serious question though...and I am trying to engage you in conversation, not "troll" you:  How many times have you thought something was wrong and were wrong yourself?  Do those occasions (assuming they happen) cause you to doubt what you think or do you think that the next time you might be right so you pursue your line of thought anyway?  I would assume you always follow up because that is your job.