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thoughts on HRCs free college tuition/loan plan
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(08-09-2016, 08:56 PM)fredtoast Wrote: It is not dubious at all.  If the government said they would pay for a home for every citizen there would immediately be a 100 fold increase in the number of homebuilders in the United States.  Same thing would happen with colleges.

There would have to be some limit to who gets to go to college.  Or at least who qualifies for the money.  

In the number of homebuilders? That is dubious. There would be an increase in homebuilding, sure, but considering the number of empty homes in some communities, even that wouldn't be as high as many think. But the two are a apples and oranges comparison. The standards wouldn't decrease, which is what would really need to happen to increase enrollment like that.

(08-09-2016, 09:05 PM)6andcounting Wrote: Harvard wouldn't change their admission criteria or let more students in, but for profit schools that have no admission standards at all will gladly accept you and the 20k a year the government would pay on your behalf. Smaller schools looking to grow - even those that are actually reputable and worthwhile - would certainly way the costs and benefits of lowering standards by X, but having X number of more students funding the program.

For profits schools aren't going to be slow to adapt if there's money to be had. Phoenix University or whatever it is is all online. Professors are all or mostly paid per diem, so it wouldn't take much for an online professors to teach a class with more students. It also wouldn't take much to convince professors from other universities to teach a few online classes a year and pick up extra money. Basically anyone with a masters degree can teach undergrad courses; there are already plenty of people out there working full time in their field and teaching part time at night or online.

The writing is on the wall for the for-profits. Their accrediting agencies are losing authority and it will likely result in pulling federal funds in the very near future. We will see the end of those institutions by the time her plans would come to fruition.

(08-10-2016, 01:51 AM)Millhouse Wrote: The $125k threshold was straight from her website, link in the op. There wasnt anything else about families making a bit more than that, and it was a hypothetical example based on that. But to add to that, what about kids that come from families that are past that threshold, but the parents make the kids pay their way. Those kids would be getting screwed as opposed to someone that just so happened to come from a poorer family. 

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying it was the case now. Admittedly, I haven't looked at her education plan because, well, POTUS candidates are full of shit and because anything like that requires congressional movements.
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RE: thoughts on HRCs free college tuition/loan plan - Belsnickel - 08-10-2016, 07:50 AM

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